Best five wins thread. Lineal / Ring Magazine heavyweight champions.

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  1. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, if it helps, Bivins was nearly gone, Braddock and Buddy Baer not that good anyway!
    But you are correct, also Savold, Brion, Ramage, Ettore, Galento, Dorazio, Simon...his second 5 better than most!
     
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  2. Berlenbach

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    Joe was awesome in rematches, 11-0, 9 KOs.
     
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  3. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, Joe was always awesome ;)
     
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  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His 3rd 5 is better than some first that we've done so far!
     
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  5. Mendoza

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    I would go that far by saying his #6-10 wins are better than most previous champions #1-5. I would say some of his #6-10 would rate as top 5 for others.
     
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  6. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Schmeling
    Walcott
    M.Baer
    Conn
    Pastor

    Farr
    Bivins
    Braddock
    Carnera
    Godoy

    B.Baer
    Galento
    Nova
    Mann
    Mauriello

    Poreda
    Ramage
    Retzlaff
    Levinsky
    Uzcuden

    Sharkey
    Lewis
    Dorazio
    Simon
    Brion
    Other than that his opposition was mediocre...
     
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  7. dmt

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    @META5, i believe you wanted to post your picks from Louis onward
     
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  8. Mendoza

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    @META5 today is the last day for Joe Louis votes.
     
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  9. Berlenbach

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    Schmeling
    Baer
    Conn
    Walcott II
    Godoy II
     
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  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Louis certainly was active and had more their two wins than just about anyone we reviewed to this point He also had issues in tier 1, tier 2 opponents, and was either down or stunned too often by tier 3.

    I might put Bob Pastor on my top 5 today, as he beat many of the top black fighters Louis did not fight.
     
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  11. Berlenbach

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    Of your top 15, Louis KO'd 13 of them. The few he couldn't KO first time around got it in the rematch. The only misses were Farr and Bivins (the latter in one of his last comeback fights). Joe was just a one-off.
     
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  12. META5

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    1. Schmelling II - absolute destruction of an arguably top 30 HW
    2. M. Baer - best filmed performance. Triple left hooks, excellent radar, deceptively good feet, cracked a top chin.
    3. Walcott II - past prime KO whilst behind - shows his mentality and killer instinct
    4. Conn - another example of killer instinct and mentality as other lineal champions could well have resigned to being outboxed.
    5. Uzcudun - I could have gone for Godoy or Pastor, but the destructive power that Louis unleashed was too good for me to ignore.
    I'm certain on #s 1 - 4 - happy to have people disagree with my #5.
     
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  13. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's arguably top 15!
     
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  14. META5

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    My HW ranking is based off of ring record, my assessment of their skillset and hypothetical H2H potency.

    I don't mind people disagreeing, but I would really like to see your top 15 and which boxers you are dismissing for Schmelling.
     
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  15. 70sFan865

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    Something like this:

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Larry Holmes
    4. Lennox Lewis
    5. George Foreman
    6. Joe Frazier
    7. Rocky Marciano
    8. Evander Holyfield
    9. Jack Johnson
    10. Wladimir Klitschko
    11. Mike Tyson
    12. Sonny Liston
    13. James Jeffries
    14. Ezzard Charles
    15. Jack Dempsey
    16. Max Schmeling
    17. Floyd Patterson
    18. Bob Fitzsimmons
     
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