Best five wins thread. Lineal / Ring Magazine heavyweight champions.

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    The voting ends for Spinks to night. Might we see his name on the next guy's list?
     
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  2. Mendoza

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    When one guy is over the limit, it's not a fight at that weight class. Since there was no official cruiser weight division at that time, it makes it a heavyweight fight. Janitor thinks the same. No one else has an issue with it.
     
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  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike Tyson

    1. Spinks - as Mendoza said on Joe Louis top 5 sometimes how you win matters

    2. Ruddock
    3. Tucker
    4. Holmes
    5. Bruno
     
    The Long Count, Jul 28, 2020
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  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Mike Tyson

    1. Razor Ruddock
    2. Tony Tucker
    3. Pinklon Thomas
    4. Frank Bruno
    5. Michael Spinks

    IMO Tyson's win over a prime Bruno is better than beating an aging Holmes. I would put the win over Holmes at #6 considering Holmes was ring rusty.
     
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  5. 70sFan865

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    Tyson has quite decent top 5, but on the highest tier.
     
    70sFan865, Jul 28, 2020
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  6. The Long Count

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    Tyson will be interesting, I see various placements for the spinks bout. I chose spinks as top choice because I remember the magnitude of the bout. The hype was huge even if the conclusion was never in doubt. Still I don’t think anyone expected 90 seconds. It was the apex of Tyson’s career.
    His 5th slot will be interesting too, Berbick to be youngest champ ever? Pinklon Thomas and his quality career, same with Bruno.
    Holmes was rusty but was never stopped before or again and still had win over Mercer ahead, as well as tough competitive bout with Evander ahead of him.
    One of the more interesting champs with choices for sure
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    Spinks top 5 was no easy task. Counting the votes that were made it came out like this.

    1. Holmes 25 points
    2. Cooney 20 points
    3. Tangstand 15 points
    4. Johnson 6 points
    5. Ranquello 2 points.
     
    Mendoza, Jul 29, 2020
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  8. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I take it people could wait to get off the " Jinx " and move on to Tyson. Looking back, Tyson really fit the times and the culture. Like Jack Dempsey, he put boxing on the front page in non boxing media.

    Tyson's top 5

    1. Thomas. He was 29-1-1, close to his peak. A great performance by Tyson on offense and defense.

    2. Bruno. A decent big / alphabet champion stopped.

    3. Tucker. Tyson won easy on points. Not the most exciting fight, but a good opponent beaten. Tucker has wins over Douglas and McCall, and went the distance with Tyson and Lewis. For a short period of time, he was a really good fighter.

    4. Holmes. Tyson was the only man to stop Holmes. He was brilliant on this night.

    5. Tubbs. Taken out in 2 rounds.

    I might tinker with this. Spinks might place. Ruddock might place. A win over Withrepsoon would really make this a solid top 5. Too bad that one never happened. It could have been Tyson's best win.

    Voting ends Friday night 11:59PM Eastern standard time USA.
     
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  9. Gazelle Punch

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    Tyson
    1) Holmes
    2) Spinks
    3) Ruddock
    4) Thomas
    5) Bruno
    A rather weak top five for such a great fighter. Wish he would have come back and beat Douglas or Holyfield. No revenge wins or ever came off the canvas to come back and win. Hurts his resume
     
    Gazelle Punch, Jul 29, 2020
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  10. Jason Thomas

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    Mike Tyson

    1-----Michael Spinks
    2-----Larry Holmes
    3-----Trevor Berbick
    4-----Pinklon Thomas
    5-----Razor Ruddock

    I echo Gazelle Punch's post. It isn't as impressive as one would expect.

    Spinks--Tyson is the only guy to ever beat this two division champion.
    Holmes--Tyson the only guy to ever stop Holmes, who had lost to that time only to Spinks
    Berbick--a guy whose career is speckled with upset wins over guys like Page and Thomas, and was the fellow Tyson first won a title from. And also a durable fighter whom Tyson stopped impressively.
    After that there is a fairly deep resume of A beats B who beats C who beats A type of fighters. Several others could be picked, but I went with Thomas and Ruddock as looking like the best of this group.

    Tyson really needed a win over Holyfield to cement high ATG status. As is, he ends being one of those fighters more impressive for being exiting than for having a great resume, like his idol, Jack Dempsey.
     
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  11. dmt

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    I will take a win over a prime dangerous contender like Ruddock over past their prime versions of Spinks or Holmes

    Spinks's knees were gone by this time, IMO Ruddock beats 1988 Spinks
     
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  12. janitor

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    1. Tony Tucker
    2. Michael Spinks
    3. Larry Holmes
    4. Bonecrusher Smith
    5. Trevor Berbick

    I am noting some very different lists here!
     
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  13. Bokaj

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    And all look very reasonable. He has a very even top 10 even.
     
    Bokaj, Jul 29, 2020
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  14. mattdonnellon

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    1-Spinks
    2-Tucker
    3-Tubbs
    4-Ruddock
    5-Holmes
     
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  15. janitor

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    I struggle to see why Bruno is featuring on these lists.
     
    janitor, Jul 29, 2020
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