Best Headmovement @Heavyweight

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  1. Foreman Hook

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    Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke
     
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  2. Hattons Hook

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    Smokin' Joe all the way. He looked like he was having a good boogie in there, for all 15 rounds as well.
    Tysons headmovement was great too in the 80's but he seemed to forget it altogether as he went on.
     
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  5. McGrain

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    Unfortunately for you, FH, the answer is


    1) Jack Dempsey
    2) Sonny Liston
     
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  7. Hattons Hook

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    Not seen enough of either to vote for them. Ill have a look on my lunch.Was Listons headmovement really that good?
     
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  8. McGrain

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    To break it down -

    Joe Frazier's head-movement was rhythm based, it was a part of a bobbing & weaving style that could be timed. Dempsey's head-movement was arbitrary.

    Ali moved his head reactively. If that's what you are asking about, reaction based defence, then I'd pick Ali. If you're asking about arbitrary head movement, Dempsey's was totally random and Liston's was designed to avoid being hit. Little moves and dips behind an ATG offence. I wish Foreman had added this too.
     
    McGrain, May 16, 2012
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  9. Hattons Hook

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    Yeah Foremans defence, early foreman anyway seemed pretty much non existant am i right there?
     
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  10. McGrain

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    Pretty much.
     
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  11. Caelum

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    I don't know. Maybe the guy could have moved his feet forward more and also shot some shots to the body as well as the head. Mosley back in the day used to mix it up and so did Hearns and others: thrusting jab to the body (or even the Chest) and up to the head (while moving in quickly). Just mix it up.

    As Ali is pulling back, look at how his mid-section protrudes forward.

    That said, MFer was skilled.
     
    Caelum, May 16, 2012
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  12. red cobra

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    Jimmy Young of course had excellent head movement.
     
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  13. PowerPuncher

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    Depends if you count reactionary slipping as head movement, I mean it is but I count it as a little different, so Ali and Jones while great at slipping punches, I'd consider it something different

    Tyson's was the best of head movement on the way in and punch stats would show he's far harder to hit than Frazier or Dempsey. Most boxers didn't really had that much of a problem hitting Frazier or Dempsey. Tyson was very rarely hit
     
    PowerPuncher, May 16, 2012
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  14. Stevie G

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    The G.O.A.T.

    The way that he could time his opponent's shots to the split second. Sometimes he'd move his head a mere fraction. His timing was so good,he could play with that tight a margin.
     
    Stevie G, May 16, 2012
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  15. Stevie G

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    Exactly !!

    Toney has never beaten a LIVE heavy.
     
    Stevie G, May 16, 2012
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