Best I've Faced: Tony Tucker

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  1. Ro-Maximus

    Ro-Maximus New Member Full Member

    Oct 19, 2021
    From The Ring:
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    Tony Tucker holds the ignominious record of shortest heavyweight title reign at just 64 days. However, he still enjoyed a very good career as a top-10 contender in the late-80s and early-90s.

    Tucker was born on December 27, 1958 in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He was the oldest child of three and the son of former amateur boxer Bob Tucker, who trained Floyd Mayweather Sr. and was a close friend of Roger.

    “Michigan was a beautiful place to live,” Tucker told The Ring. “I didn’t grow up in the ghetto. I grew up middle class; both my parents had good jobs. My dad worked for [furniture manufacturers] Steelcase; my mom worked for Walter Hagen Golf apparel.

    “I boxed because my dad was a boxer and I was a daddy’s boy – it was a connection with my dad. I would never have been a boxer; I didn’t care for boxing, I was a better baseball player and football player.”

    Tucker graduated from high school while enjoying a very successful amateur career as a light heavyweight. He won gold at the Pan-Am games and World Cup in 1979 and had very real aspirations of representing his country at Olympics before losing in the trials.

    However, then-U.S. President Jimmy Carter declared a boycott of the 1980 Moscow games – due to Russia’s invasion of Afghanistan – so the U.S team elected to fight a series of exhibitions in Europe. Tucker had been scheduled to travel to Poland but was injured the day before the flight and stayed at home. Tragically, the plane crashed, killing all 87 people on board.

    “There were two disappointments that year,” Tucker said solemnly. “To find out we weren’t having no Olympics and when all the American boxers got killed. One of the guys who was on the plane, Lemuel Steeples, was a best friend of mine.”

    After compiling an amateur record of 115-6, Tucker made his professional debut at heavyweight in November 1980 and scored a third-round knockout over Chuck Gardner.

    Tucker was guided by his father, but his progression was slow and he was hampered by a knee injury that kept him out of the sport for 15 months. With the team struggling financially, his father sought investment from boxing notables such as Cedric Kushner, Jeff Levine and Josephine Abercrombie.

    Tucker bested former heavyweight title challenger Jimmy Young (UD 10) in September 1984 and, following several more victories, beat James Broad (UD 12) for the vacant USBA title to position himself high in the IBF rankings.

    When then IBF-titleholder Michael Spinks refused to defend his title against Tucker, he was stripped. Subsequently, “TNT” was matched against James “Buster” Douglas to fill the vacancy at the outdoor arena at the Las Vegas Hilton in May 1987.

    “We knew each other well because we were sparring partners at one time,” said Tucker, who came on strong after a slow start to stop Douglas in the 10th round. “It was funny because his dad trained him like my dad trained me. We both kind of knew what each other had.”

    Tucker, famed for his fashionable Jheri curl, didn’t get to enjoy his new status for very long and was quickly matched against WBA/WBA counterpart Mike Tyson in a unification bout in Las Vegas in August 1987.

    The self-proclaimed “Invisible Champion” entered the contest in less than stellar condition.

    “When I fought Mike, I had one hand, my right hand was broken 10 days before the fight,” recalled Tucker. “When I went to the doctor, he X-rayed it and said, ‘You’ve got a small hair fracture.’ My dad and the doctor went out the back, came back and the doctor said, ‘I looked at it again and I think we can put you in hand therapy. You can’t use your hand for 10 days.’ I’m so focused to get ready for the fight, I’m thinking my hand is going to be alright if I go to this hand therapy, but I’m not using my right hand for 10 days.

    “When I finally used it in the fight, I knew it was shot. I hit him and my right hand was broken and I had to do the best I could with one hand. That’s why I did all them antics, shuffling and rolling my arms. I was trying to show Tyson was nothing to me. The world didn’t know my right hand was broke, I’m a right-handed puncher.

    “I blamed it on my dad because he was the person I depended on and he let me go in there knowing I had a broken right hand. It disappointed me. He said I should have beat him with one hand. He said Don King would have blackballed me, but Don King wasn’t my promoter, Cedric Kushner was. We had to sign with Don King to get the fight with Tyson.”

    Tucker, who made a career high $1.9 million, dropped a listless 12-round unanimous decision, and his life quickly spiraled out of control.

    “The next day, I’m thinking it’s a bad dream,” he recalled. “I woke up to reality that I really lost and didn’t know how to deal with that loss. I had to substitute that pain through drugs.

    “I was in Hollywood and going to different parties, trying to fill my night up. I saw people going into different rooms and tried it. That feeling I had, everything else went away.”

    After almost two-and-a-half-years away from boxing, Tucker returned and stayed very busy, collecting the NABF title by beating future cruiserweight titleholder Orlin Norris and successfully defending it against future heavyweight titleholder Oliver McCall.

    Those wins earned him the WBC No. 1 ranking and a fight against newly-minted titleholder Lennox Lewis.

    “I stopped using [drugs] for five months and I was in the gym, but it’s hard to erase that and it wears on your career,” said Tucker, who got off the canvas in the third and ninth rounds before dropping a unanimous decision. “It tears you down. I wasn’t at the height of my powers and he was on the way up.

    “If I had fought Lennox in top form, it would have been different outcome. My whole thing fighting Lennox Lewis was I wanted to win so I could fight Tyson again.”

    Tucker fought on but was a shell of his former self, losing title fights to the younger, fresher Bruce Seldon (RTD 7) and Herbie Hide (TKO 2) before retiring in 1998 with a record of 57-7 (47 knockouts).

    “When you use drugs, you age a lot faster.” he said.

    Tucker, 62, lives in Dunedin, Florida and has two daughters and a granddaughter. He has been free from his addictions for many years.

    “A friend of mine owns a nightclub and I was working there doing a little security work and enjoying retirement life from boxing.” he said.
  2. Ro-Maximus

    Ro-Maximus New Member Full Member

    Oct 19, 2021
    He graciously took time to speak to The Ring about the best he fought in 10 key categories.

    Buster Douglas: Lennox Lewis had a good jab but I’d have to say Tyson and Buster Douglas. Tyson was shorter but he had a real quick jab, his hands were fast, and Douglas had a fast jab but it was strong and stiff. I’d go with Buster Douglas – he had a good snappy jab.

    Jimmy Young: He was slippery man (laughs). He could get out of the way of punches; he was real slick.

    Mike Tyson: Buster was pretty quick. Tyson had real quick hands.

    Lennox Lewis: He was light on his feet; he could move, different angles and I had a hard time catching up with him.

    Lewis: He was very smart. He didn’t fall for a lot of the tricks I was trying to set him up with. I guess he knew them too (laughs.)

    Tyson: Orlin Norris and Tyson. They were shorter guys, they’d plant their feet and wouldn’t move. I’d say Mike, he was very strong.

    Tyson: I hit him with a good left uppercut that he stood up to. Lennox Lewis took some good shots.

    Lewis: Oliver [McCall] was a helluva puncher and Lennox was a helluva puncher. Lennox dropped me twice, so I’d have to say him.

    Douglas: Tyson, Douglas and Lennox had good skills. Douglas was very sound technically; you saw how he fought Tyson. We fought before him and Tyson and he saw how I did and followed [the game plan].

    Lewis: Douglas, Tyson and Lennox. They were the best fights I had; they were title fights. Tyson was short, strong, real quick and he could take a punch. Douglas was as tall as me, good strong jab, good defense. Lennox came out from the amateurs, he was real strong, he had reach and it was a different kind of style. He could move good and he had a strong punch. I would say Lennox, he achieved so much, a very good fighter.
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    This was a very interesting read. Thanks for posting it. I never knew about Tucker being partial to football and baseball over boxing or that he was scheduled to compete in Poland and had his life saved by an injury. As for his picks for the best he faced, it comes across as being reasonably honest.
  4. Barrf

    Barrf Member Full Member

    Sep 19, 2021
    His picks seem very honest, and based solely on his own experience with the fighters. I enjoyed that. Glad he beat his addictions and is doing well now. Addiction, whatever it be to, is a mother****er.
  5. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Oct 18, 2004
    His picks were solid. A lot of the 80's heavyweights were good athletes (Page, Witherspoon, Thomas, Green, Dokes, and Biggs).
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  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Oct 4, 2016

    Thanks for posting this about Tucker, I sense we didn't see his best for all the reasons he spoke of, how sad.
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  7. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Feb 17, 2008
    Sure think things turn out a lot different for him if he would have got the Mike Spinks bout. I think he wins a decision going away would have shown improvement and some better more ideal matchmaking after that point. Still not beating Tyson but most likely handles the rest of those challengers and top 10 guys.
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jan 13, 2021
    Did he say Lewis was the best overall ? A very good list indeed
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  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 27, 2005
    It's interesting that quite a few big up the Lewis chin noting he took some big shots off them. Once he filled out, tightened up his delivery and arrived in shape (which was virtually every fight but 2 - Vitali and Rahman) he was most certainly durable. He considers him the smartest, best and hardest puncher too. Interestingly he says McCall could really bang and rates him above Tyson for power.
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  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jan 4, 2008
    Bigs up Douglas a bit since it was his best win, but otherwise it seems honest enough. Lewis often seems to get props for his smart and foot work in these. Tyson of course for his handspeed.
  11. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

    Dec 31, 2009
    The IBF had already decided they wanted a piece of Mike Tysons sanctioning fees.

    They were stuck with Spinks while the WBA and WBC got to promote the biggest attraction in boxing.

    The IBF made peanuts out of Spinks vs Tangstad.

    They stripped Spinks and promoted what would have been a NABF title fight between Douglas and Tucker into a vacant “world” IBF title fight…really in order to deliver a title to Mike Tyson.

    At that time Nobody knew who Douglas and Tucker were.

    At least Tucker and Douglas wound up being Tysons better two title opponents. A happy accident born from the madness and greed of bogus governing bodies.
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

    Apr 3, 2012
    They were both in the top ten by The Ring. Tucker was a standout am. Why do you prattle on with this bull****?
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  13. channy

    channy Boxing Addict Full Member

    Feb 2, 2015
    Great thread, it is amazing what you find out about these fighters years later.

    I remember watching him beat Douglas live, and thought Douglas quit tbh.

    But that part about his hand injury and not being on the flight gave me shivers.
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

    Dec 31, 2009

    can you produce the ratings before their fight please?

    The end of year ratings register them no higher than #6 and #9.

    why should a match to decide a world champion be made from the Ring #6 and Ring #9? Any fight between a Ring number 6 ranked contender and their number nine ranked contender should never decide a “world champion”.

    Tucker had only beat James Broad and was still looking for his first live opponent. Douglas had previously beat Page. Both guys were on the back burner looking for exposure.

    Nothing showed they were yet a logical threat to any title.
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2021
  15. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Apr 27, 2005
    Do you have anything to contribute to the actual thread chok?