Best legacy: Sanders, Byrd, or Peter

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by andrewa1, May 3, 2017.


How do you rank Sanders, Peter, and Byrd in legacy?

  1. 1Sanders2Peter3Byrd

    3 vote(s)
    6.1%
  2. 1Peter2Byrd3Sanders

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  3. 1Byrd2Sander3Peter

    19 vote(s)
    38.8%
  4. 1Sanders2Byrd3Peter

    7 vote(s)
    14.3%
  5. 1Peter2Sanders3Byrd

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  6. 1Byrd2Peter3Sanders

    17 vote(s)
    34.7%
  7. Too close to call

    1 vote(s)
    2.0%
  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great post.

    Thanks for that.
     
  2. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    bryd sanders peter.. sanders and peter is a toss up. peter had so much hype but never same thru. and I think sanders win over wlad inches him 2nd. could be a toss up though
     
  3. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Byrd by a good margin. Defeated Vitali Klitschko, David Tua, McCline, and Holyfield. Also fought on even terms with an inspired Golota despite not having the size and power to make him fold. Good win over Jimmy Thunder too that gets forgot.

    Vitali win wasn't flukey, he was missing loaded left hands at odd angles, it's no wander he tore his shoulder out. Same goes for Holyfield, who also his tore his shoulder out against Byrd. Funny all these flukes happen against a guy who gives odd angles and makes his opponent miss. Byrd was an abnormality in the division, of course he produced abnormal results. Despite not being prime Holyfield was far from shot, he had just outboxed Ruiz and Rahman, and was clearly the top guy in the division behind Wlad and Lewis.

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  4. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Ha! I wondered if you'd have the nerve to come in here. I'm happy to own you again. Sure, you can say "Byrd by a good margin", and I certainly won't deny some agree with you. But it's equally clear from the polls and the comments that most consider it a fairly close and debatable affair.

    You see, the difference between my position and your crazy anti Vitali position, is that this thread largely provokes discussion and reflection, while if you were to post a thread trying to justify your crazy beliefs, it would rightly be shot down as nothing more than a troll thread, with no more debatable points than an argument that Norton has a greater legacy than Frazier.

    Oh, and Holy was mostly shot by his standards and a lower top 10 guy at best, he got a robbery win against Rahman. And only crazy trolls like yourself don't recognize the Vitali win as a fluke.
     
  5. The Kentucky Cobra

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    73% of those who voted in your poll agree that Byrd is #1. So I don't see it as being fairly close. Especially given Sanders is pretty well liked on this forum. I would have expected him to be winning, honestly.

    And "good margin" is my opinion and not a comment on the poll results, though it fits the poll results.

    I have no Anti-Vitali position.

    Man, I got you all in pieces. I honestly have no idea why.

    RING #4 2002 year end.

    Holyfield was rightfully ahead on the cards.

    What a story, mark.
     
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  6. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Owning you again, this otta be fun. Reply are in text.

    But seriously, doesn't it say anything at all to you that it's so debated about who the best of these three is? It shows you they are vying for beat scalp of the K's, not actual rivals for legacy of either one. But I know you are just too hopelessly stupid and deluded to understand that.
     
  7. andrewa1

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    So, apologies, its been a great thread with good insight, but I'm going to have to put down a troll attack. As it's coming, I'd like everyone to watch out for Cobra's favorite tactic of posting music videos and saying "refer back". That always means he's run out of arguments and is getting desperate.
     
  8. The Kentucky Cobra

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    For my opinion see post #50

    If you say so.

    It makes sense.

    I don't value your opinion.

    A. Headbutt ruled accidental by official. Injury caused by a accidental foul goes to the score cards.
    B. That's an out liner opinion, I can't say I've seen many people who think Rahman was ahead in that fight.

    "Holyfield was able to outbox Rahman at every turn, jabbing and battering the former champion over and over, i"

    "ut it was difficult to figure out how one judge, Melvina Lathan, who scored it 67-66 for Rahman, could have found a round Rahman deserved to win."

    By Mike Freeman, the New York Times, June 2, 2002

    It doesn't seem to be very debated. A "healthy majority" have voted for Byrd.
     
  9. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'm discussing the topic...you are flaming and going all over the place in your own thread.

     
  10. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wow, did I call it or what. You are already desperate to start quoting thread numbers.

    For your posts, they just really aren't very good and are largely non responsive, except for your Holyfield Rahman response. A. Ruled an accident, which was a robbery ruling. B. Thought you said you don't care if something is an outlier opinion? Gee, you said that before, guess it would be another example of selection bias, lol. Anyway, yeah, good job, an article author thought he won. I agree with Lathan.
     
  11. andrewa1

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    Don't lie or pretend, that's what bothers me about you, you're the fakest poster on here. You came to blow up the thread, and you've already added about a page to it.
     
  12. NoNeck

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    Sanders is number one. He's the only guy to ever outclass Wlad Klitschko. There was no luck in that win and Wlad was smart to avoid a rematch. The rest of his resume has it's limitations, but so what?

    Beating Tua, struggling with Golota, and being lucky to have an pre-prime Vitali Klitschko with a ripped shoulder quit on you does not top that..
     
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  13. NoNeck

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    Buster Douglas easily had a better resume than Razor Ruddock.
     
  14. andrewa1

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    This is how I see it. I do think Byrds resume and Sanders lack of a resume outside of the K's makes it very close. But Byrd barely or debatable won a TON of his fights. For me, Peter, who beat a similar level of comp(not including Vitali) without as much controversy, and Sanders both edge him.
     
  15. NoNeck

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    Peter is a clear cut three to me. He only beat a past it McCline (unimpresively), Jeremy Williams, an old Maskaev, and a fat James Toney once legitimately, once by semi-gift. Old Holyfield>Maskaev, both beat McCline, Oquendo>Williams and Tua>fat version of Toney.