Best middleweights Mayweather could beat?

There’s never any logic to any of your posts.

Never.

You never offer any logic or any breakdowns etc.

You just put forward nonsense statements.


Sumbu Kalambay was a technician.

A chess master.

An extremely skilled boxer.


Some reasonable questions:

1. Who did Floyd ever fight who was as skilful as Sumbu Kalambay?

2. How many fights did Floyd have at MW?


The answers are:

1. Nobody. The closest probably being a faded Oscar, who Floyd struggled with.

2. None.


So how do you come to the conclusion that a very technically skilled MW would have lost every second of the fight to Floyd?

It’s utter nonsense.


You’ve also said that Kalambay was passive.

No, he wasn’t.


You’ve also said that because Kalambay beat McCallum, that that suggests that Floyd could also have beaten McCallum too.

No. It really doesn’t.

Because things don’t work out like that in boxing.


Floyd never saw any fighters as skilled as those guys, and he never fought at their weight class.

So you need to consider those points, before you even think of looking at how they’d have matched up on the night stylistically.

 

You’re a Floyd fanboy.

And a typical fanboy’s response to any negative comment, is always to accuse someone of hating or being biased etc.

Nobody here is hating.


Also, the two guys who Floyd beat who were MW champions, were never really legit champions were they.

Oscar got a bogus win over Sturm, before fighting Hopkins. His only 2 fights at the weight.

Cotto cherry picked an injured Martinez, who should have lost to Martin Murray.

He then fought Canelo at a C-W.

They both only had a few fights there before moving back down.


None of this is evidence that Floyd could have beaten a legitimate HOF MW.

 

HOF MW’s?

 

You’re really going with this?

 

Typical of you to miss out the other relevant comments.

Here are 2 articles, after Floyd had ran off his mouth, where he told Winky that he was going to teach him a lesson and knock him out:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj4_rzmy8uBAxUgh_0HHWO3CDcQFnoECCoQAQ&url=https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2113721&usg=AOvVaw0Qoww8B53mp5iryhuBnzFr&opi=89978449

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj4_rzmy8uBAxUgh_0HHWO3CDcQFnoECCcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tampabay.com%2Farchive%2F2005%2F07%2F26%2Fwright-vs-mayweather-not-
dead%2F&usg=AOvVaw1xPZCxSXQCAbdcN8ZAH8RW&opi=89978449

Now please tell me what was laughable about Winky having wanted a 50/50 deal.

At the time, back in 2005, Winky was the ‘Man’ at JMW, where he held the belts, after having beaten Shane Mosley twice, as well as Tito.

Floyd was not a big star back then. He’d not even fought Judah, Hatton or Oscar etc, at that stage. Back in 2005, he’d just come off of the Gatti win.

So come and explain to me why you think that Floyd deserved more than a 50/50 split at that point. Because he didn’t.

 

You hardly ever support your posts with evidence.

So what if Floyd beat Oscar and Manny?

How is that relevant to the thread?

 

The highlights look nothing like a deadman.

 

Why would GGG likely have lost?

Brook was very aggressive and offensive minded against GGG.

He was walked down.

Floyd would never have hit GGG with the combinations that Brook hit him with.

Brook deserves huge credit, because he really went for it.

You must know that Floyd wouldn’t have done that.

What would he have done when GGG would have pursued him aggressively?


Talk is cheap.

It’s very easy to say “GGG would be easy work” before then retiring with fights against Andre Berto and an MMA fighter.


Like others have said, if Floyd had been as confident as you guys, then he’d have had more than just 3 fights above WW.

The fact that he didn’t speaks volumes.

 

You literally posted the article I quoted. LOL at Winky Wright being a serious draw.

 

He was good against Hopkins. It’s analogous to Hatton being flat against Collazo and in form against Mayweather.

 

You literally only purposely posted that one paragraph, whilst deliberately leaving all of the others out.

Read them in their entirety.

We know what happened.

Why are you laughing?

This was 2005.

What had Floyd done at that point??

Floyd wasn’t a star.

He’d not even fought at WW then.

Winky had beaten Mosley x 2 and Tito.

Floyd had beaten Gatti.

There was nothing wrong with a 50/50 split.

 

It's clear that Canelo was nowhere near his best and the 152 weight was the reason why. LOL @ the thought of Floyd ever fighting on a fair field at 160. MW Canelo was another beast entirely.

 

Not sure how good was He. Hopkins might've been drained cutting those extra 4 pounds at his age - and He still stopped Oscar, which was the last stoppage of his career.
I think Hatton just couldn't fight southpaw boxers personally. He struggled with Eamonn Magee - so no surprises Collazo gave him issues.

 

152 wasn't the reason why he was nowhere near his best, he came in at 153 the fight before Mayweather lol

He was an extremely good young fighter when he came up against Mayweather but he got completely outclassed that night which was a huge learning curve and it helped him go on to become the beast he is/was when entering his prime years.

 

He was clearly off and the weight cut is the reason. PBF specifically tried to dry him out as much as possible. Even a lb or two when you are on the limit can have drastic effects. Canelo himself realised this all too well and went on to make it his prime tactic at weakening opponents.