Best non winning

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  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ray Leonard v Roberto Duran 1 1980
    Muhammad Ali v Joe Frazier 1971
    Joe Frazier v Muhammad Ali 1975
     
  2. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Perfect sum up. Totally agree. Ironically, we have to be thankful that Ray did fall into Duran’s fight plan - otherwise we wouldn’t have gotten one of the ATG fights.

    EDIT: Just read @scartissue ’s comment. No, you are not nit picking at all brother, you are very correct - my bad - poor excuse but I only read the Thread Title, but I will say that Duran did have that confidence and aura as if he was the Champ, with Ray playing second fiddle. Lol.
     
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  3. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The version of Ray Mercer we all use in fantasy fights is the version who lost to Lennox Lewis, if that says something about his performance there.
     
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  4. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    That’s an excellent way to determine potential nominees.
     
  5. Romero

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    Lots of fights some people would consider robberies would most likely be the best choices such as Ruben Castillo vs Salvador Sanchez.
     
  6. Flo_Raiden

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    Emanuel Augustus vs Emanuel Burton 1
    Erislandy Lara vs Paul Williams
    Gabriel Campillo vs Tavoris Cloud
    Bernard Hopkins vs Jean Pascal 1
     
  7. nyterpfan

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    Exactly!! Duran had that swagger and aura as you stated--which made him SEEM like the champion going into that epic fight!!
     
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  8. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have to use 3:
    Mccallum or Toney (Mccallum/Toney I)
    Winky vs. Vargas
    Tarver vs Jones I
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    What was Mercer "challenging" for tho?

    How's this one!!!!!! -

    Thomas Hearns vs SRL ;)

    And one that always gets forgotten for some reason - Lupe Pintor vs Wilfredo Gomez, a mighty effort.

    Arguello vs Pryor despite being favorite.
    Wlad vs Joshua
     
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  10. Vantage_West

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    sanderline williams's career
     
  11. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Gatti vs Ward 1 and vs Robinson I and II
    Gomez vs. Sanchez
    Like John says, Pintor vs. Gomez
    Walcott vs. Marciano I
    Barkley vs Duran and Benn even if the latter one was a first-round ko loss
    McGuigan vs Cruz
    Mugabi vs. Hagler
    Moore vs. Marciano
    Firpo vs. Dempsey
    Nelson vs. Sanchez
    Augustus vs, Mayweather jr.
    Vazquez vs, Larios II
    Kim vs. Mancini

    All qualify, IMO
     
  12. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    P4P and relative to the era, its Conn's performance in the first Louis fight for me, followed closely by SRR vs Maxim.
     
  13. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great thread. Kudos to the OP. But can I suggest a tweak?

    I think this thread is even better if the challengers never became champs. So their great, but ultimately fruitless, showing was their only real brush with greatness and they fell just short when the moment came. A lot of the guys making unsuccessful challenges are ATGs and champions in their own right.

    In terms of oh so nearly bridging the class gap between challenger and champ, two of our smaller boys did us proud - and both against great champs.

    Pat Cowdell v Salvador Sanchez. Pat had no business running him that close. And Billy Hardy gave prime Orlando Canizales as close a fight as anyone, first time around. Neither ever quite made the leap but, on the nights they came second, they may well have beaten any other fighter at their weights.
     
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