Best of 1972 vs 2011? Who wins these matchups?

Kuniaki Shibata vs Yurikois Gamboa - Gamboa TKO
Ken Buchanan -JUan M Marquez - Buchanan by close decision
Jose Napoloes vs Floyd Mayweather - Napoles UD
Carlos Monzon vs Sergio Martinez - Monzon TKO
Bob Fostervs Bernard Hopkins Hopkins - Foster close decision
Nico Locche- TIm Bradley - Locche wide UD
JOe Frazier vs Wlad Klitchko - Frazier TKO
Ruben Olivares vs NOnito Donaire- Olivares TKO

 

Joe Frazier vs Wladimir Klitschko- Wlad is tailor made for someone like Frazier in my opinion. Frazier KO6

Bob Foster vs Bernard Hopkins- I think a timid Hopkins could last the distance, but he'd lose a wide decision, and is more than capable of being stopped if he tries too much rough-housing.

Carlos Monzon vs Sergio Martinez- @ Monzon being behind on points. Monzon KO8 after a few feeling out rounds followed by a one-sided pasting until the end.

Jose Napoles vs Floyd Mayweather- It's spelled "Napoles", who would take a 15 round decision clearly.

Nicolino Locche vs Tim Bradley- Locche easy UD.

Ken Buchanan vs Juan Manuel Marquez- Buchanan UD15 in a very good fight. Buchanan isn't right for him, and there's no way Marquez is out-toughing him.

Alfredo Marcano vs Takashi Uchiyama- Haven't seen much of either, but the one fight I have seen of Marcano's was vastly more impressive, so I'd definitely go with him, probably by mid rounds KO.

Kuniaki Shibata vs Yuriorkis Gamboa- I like Gamboa, but he's definitely not proven enough for me to take him over someone like Shibata, who's more than capable of hurting him often. Shibata KO5.

Ruben Olivares vs Nonito Donaire- Donaire is looking the goods, but again, there is no way in hell I'd be willing to favour him over someone like Olivares. Rockabye Ruben puts him to sleep in 11.

Erbito Salavarria vs Giovanni Segura- Salavarria was an excellent technician by all accounts who hung with some of the best boxers of his time. Segura blows. Salavarria by wide UD.

 

Yes, Vitali would be a much tougher matchup as his arsenal includes an uppercut and is actually capable of putting combinations together with relative frequency. Predictable fighters like Wlad play right into the hands of a rhythm swarmer like Frazier.

 

Wlad stops Frazier
Hopkins vs Foster IDK.
Monzon vs Martinez IDK , Martinez was not the typical blown up washed up former welterweight typical Monzon victim
Mayweather vs Napoles IDK
Locche Bradley IDK
Buchanan Marquez IDK but probably Marquez wins a decision
the rest IDK

 

Wlad's inside game is gobshite. Yeah I can see him tagging Frazier with a big right or hook maybe, but he doesn't throw them enough, and I honestly think a guy who smothers and comes in close like Frazier would be his kryptonite, size aside.

Foster would smash the current Hopkins, as much as i deride both men. A simple question of freshness and skill. Foster isn't Jean Pascal. And he would hurt Hopkins much more than the current Pascal ever could.

Monzon UD Martinez. I just think he has a proven efficacy against movers due to superior range negotiation, and that outdoes any style or mobility advantage Sergio might have. Just the way I see it.

Napoles beats Pac or Mayweather sadly, natural welterweight and a great one at that. He has all the tricks PBF has, and arguably more. Pac he would just counter the **** of, although I can see him absorbing a solid amount of leather to do so.

Khan is the no 1. Bradley ran for the Pacweather sweepstakes away from the brown god of thunder, don't hate. I think Khan or Bradley gets a bit of a schooling from Locche. Khan would do much better. It's hard/bad to use upperbody movement to sway away from flurries and combinations which you can't deny Khan does well enough. That being said i still expect him to potshot his way to a razor's edge victory. Bradley i think he schools. He's not bullish or powerful enough to really get his inside game going and i surely dont think he'll outbox the man.


Buchanan UD15. Marquez isn't fleet footed enough or fresh enough at this point to outfox a great mover, which is why I think Chris John and PBF gave him problems.

I'll take Gamboa over Shibata who has never impressed me much anyway. UD. I simply think there's just a big talent gap that Shibata's experience couldn't overcome.

Donaire lacks the experience as well. But his talent is superb, easily the most physically gifted fighter we've seen since a young Pac. I think he can compete and win against the best featherweights, that's how good i think he is. Controls the distance very well and his power shots are devastating. A terrifying combination in a counterpuncher. That being said, he's a boxer highly reliant on left hand play. I question his right hand's quality overall as an orthodox lefty, although he does have a stellar uppercut. Olivares UD.

 

I agree with most of this Vic..in particular Monzon stopping martinez. A very one sided pasting after being outsped and tagged a few times in the first three rounds, Monzon would shift to a higher gear and throttle Martinez.
Locche would have a field day vs Bradley..a field day.
The only one I have reservations about is Olivares-Donaire.

 

Just as an amendment to my earlier post, I could see Gamboa stopping Shibata as well. Wouldn't favour him outright, but I could see it.

 

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If Gamboa doesn't get rid of Shibata very early doors, he'll get outmanouvered, once Shibata gets warmed up he's pretty damn good and slipping out of the pocket, getting back in, letting off combos and repeat. He was also right up for a tear up, could be his downfall, might not be. I'll tentatively go for Yuriorkis KO1 Shibata.

Fosters jab smacks B-Hop in the face, and whilst Hop' is trying to evade he gets caught with summat big and gets taken out.

Locche takes the **** out of Bradley. Literally the worst matchup possible for Bradley IMO.

Monzon gets him timing down in the mid-rounds and stops Sergio over 15.

Buchanan-Marquez would be a great matchup, but JMM would find it hard to get his timing down on someone with as unorthodox a defensive style as Buchanan had. Ken also had a stout chin to survive Marquez's pinpoint combos if he does get something going, and can outbox Marquez to a close decision.

 

Agree wholeheartedly and btw the BEST of 72 was Duran, not Buchanon and Duran destroys Marquez in 5.

 

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