Best of all time: Pound for Pound

McGrain · Feb 4, 2008

Sweet Pea said:

You're asking for all of this from his career?

Very best: Against fellow ATG Azumah Nelson. Also, his rematch with Jose Luis Ramirez, after getting robbed terribly in the first fight.

Overcoming adversity: When clearly slowing down at that stage of his career, after being outboxed for the good part of 9 rounds and looking like he's about to be upset, he lands a huge left hand on Hurtado and follows it up with left after left, brutally KO'ing him. Showing that when the game is on the line, he will deliver, even when it means changing it up, pressing the fight, and going all out for the KO.

Devastating loss: Well, I guess you would have to say Tito, since it was his only real loss. A shot, crack headed Pea facing a bigger, prime Trinidad. None of his old reflexes or speed, had to rely on experience and fighter's spirit. Was even through 7 rounds as well, outfighting Tito on the inside. From about the 8th round on, it became clear he just couldn't do it anymore, and started to slow to the point he was out of the fight by the end of it, taking a decent beating, but still surviving, and fighting.

I don't think you can ask for a bigger heart or a tougher fighter, a rare find with someone of his immense ability and boxing skills.
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I've seen all of these fights apart from the Ram robbery...will have another look though it's been a while.

randeris · Feb 4, 2008

Sweet Pea said:

#11 P4P for me as of now.

Blinding fast eh? You get that from the footage you've seen or from articles you've read? His speed looks average on film.
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Seen on ESPN classic and youtube.

For his time that is. Noone, at that time, was as fast.

kg0208 · Feb 4, 2008

McGrain said:

Again, i've taken on a ******* job in that I try to fire them all onto one list. It's hard but it's composite and it's fun too. But accomplisments can be weighed by comparing opposition. Is Floyd's title run comparable to Armstrongs? Let's look, in detail at the men they dethroned. It can be done. But it's hard.

I agree with you, but i'm not sending a message. I'm trying to contain information.

I did, i found it one of the less objectionable ones.
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I disagree that they are comparable. Of course fighters technically accomplished more in the past, and therefore the fighters they fought generally did as well. They also fought so many more fights that their resumes and title runs are generally more impressive. Individually you can look at who they fought, but in the end, the old timer will have more names simply because of how the sport was.

PH|LLA · Feb 4, 2008

Ike Williams

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he would dominate today's Lightweights hands down .

so would Bo Jack

Sweet Pea · Feb 4, 2008

Pharaoh said:

Ike Williams

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he would dominate today's Lightweights with ease.

so would Bo Jack
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Excellent shout. One of the best LW's of all time. The best boxer/puncher to ever grace LW perhaps. Just been reviewing a bit of footage of him outside of that fight for the first time.

I pick him head to head over Armstrong, Saddler, Arguello, Chavez, Mosley, Pryor, and possibly even Duran and Ortiz at or around LW. All pressure fighters, swarmers, or fellow boxer-punchers, I'd say he beats.

kg0208 · Feb 4, 2008

mney mayweather said:

no not yet and probably never. and the chances of anyone in the future being a top ten impossible. but floyd is the greatest of this era like it or not and he, roy jones and bernard hopkins (after he kicks the **** out of joe 'the slapper' calzaghe) will be the ones even getting a chance of being the top 50 of all time.
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Jones is top 50 already. Top 30 to many.

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