Best of all time: Pound for Pound

if anybody gets hit hard enough at the right angle they will "go"

 

Floyd doesn't fight with his heart because he avoids getting hit?

 

He didnt say that.

Whitaker tried not to get hit, but he took more risks in terms of oponents than Floyd, :good

 

Who cares? Fighters of today will never reach the stage of the past greats. It's impossible. The division will never be great or deep enough, thus always lacking quality. Fighters of the past are held so high up on a pedestal that todays fighter's shouldn't even think they can reach it.

 

Not true. Whitaker and Jones have been mentioned in that incredible group of fighters before.

As a matter of fact, many have gone on record as saying that if Mayweather unified the division he is in RIGHT NOW, he would be in the discussion with those fighters. So this isn't the truth at all, just a matter of your perception without actually paying attention to what the posters here are saying. When they DO say things like this, Mayweathers fans are the first to say he doesn't need this fighter or this fighter won't fight him. So it's not people claiming there isn't the talent in his division or around him to be in the conversation.....in fact, it's his fans saying he doesn't need these guys THEN making the statement you just made that is a bit puzzling.

 

I wasn't even talking Mayweather I was talking all fighters.


Fighters of today will never reach top 10 P4P all time. EVER. Won't happen.

 

My list fluctuates. But on an ATG list, it is as follows.

1. Armstrong
2. Robinson
3. Greb
4. Pep
5. Ali
6. Duran
7. R. Leonard
8. B. Leonard
9. Charles
10. Whitaker

 

Ali being a HW fought all that he could. He beat 3 top 10 HW's, he showed all the qualities that a great champion does. He had it all minus proper KO power; footwork, balence, speed, timing, chin, infighting ability and a ton of heart. He could not hope to achive the titles that Armstrong did in a number of weight class's (the most impressive thing that a boxer has done imo) simply because he was a HW.

He fought and beat all he could.

I would not have said that it was undefendable that Ali was over Armstrong, I would also not argue Armstrong being above Ali.

 

Whitaker is on my list. Mayweather unifying today would put him on that list for me. Or even beating Cotto then Forrest would get him near it if he did it convincingly.

Jones would have been there if he had beaten either Benn or Collins, along with Nunn and DM.

Hopkins will be damn close if he beats Calzaghe at this stage. There are fighters capable of making it. IF THEY FIGHT THE BEST and stop talking about risk/reward more than actual wins.

 

These kind of arguments are dumb as **** and so contextually bias that there is no point in discussing them!

There are boxers that none of us can name that have done more than a lot of boxers we consider great....

There are greats for each time period...

 

Is that an actual fighter or am i being slow....again?