Best of all time: Pound for Pound

Hmmm.... Not a bad idea. However, there would be some crossover. Major one would be Ali. Which would mess up my way of puting a HW near the top of a list...

The "best Ali" was in the 60's but his best bits of resume are in the 70's.... my head is going to pure explode

 

The men are comparable. The sport itself is not IMO. Accomplishments that are mentioned and worded the same way do not mean the same thing.

3 Titles in 3 weight classes doesn't mean now what it meant in the 1940's or even the 60's. Multiple weight champion, Lineal title, even things like top 10 contenders beaten are vastly different from one era to the next. The men may or may not be comparable. But Boxing is not.

 

Judgement call really. Put him in whichever one you feel comfortable. I put him in the 70's usually. However, whereever you include a fighter, I include his entire resume. He is one fighter with one resume, which follows him to whichever list he is on.

 

Ahh ok. Well that makes sence, you may be onto something my good man :think

 

That is possibly the worst top 3 P4P I've ever seen.:good

 

We are fundementally talking about different things. I see P4P lists and ATG lists as different things. P4P lists for me, weigh H2H heavily in their criteria. ATG lists weigh accomplishments and resume more heavily, giving less credence to subjective H2H skills and ability. In this instance, accomplishments and their context become impossible for me to cross value. They don't weigh the same across era's.

Convenience doesn't always mean deteriorating the state of the message. Sometimes it's done so that things are more clean cut, so that less subjectiveness is involved. I have tried making the cross era lists. You saw my top 10 a page ago, or maybe you didn't. But I don't feel comfortable with that list based on what I just said.

 

There's the MAJOR flaw with your reasoning, and the reason he doesn't even rank among the top 30 all time P4P.

 

1.ALI
2.sugar ray robinson
3. sugar ray leonard


IMO

 

:blood..................:barf

 

Ranks much higher head to head than he does in terms of greatness. The problem is not hitting him hard enough, it's hitting him at all.

 

Marciano and Mayweather 2 and 3 is not great....

 

you think i am wrong whats yours then?

 

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammed Ali
3. Henry Armstrong

How Armstrong is not in a top 3 is proper criminality, :good.