We knew it was going to happen. I thought id create a thread with h2h matches with some of the top guys from both eras just to see who comes out on top. I've tried to match them evenly to get some entertaining fights. So, who are you picking? Tyson vs Frazier Holyfield vs Ali Lewis vs Foreman Bowe vs Holmes Moorer vs Norton Botha vs Wepner Bruno vs Cooper Tucker vs Young Mcall vs Chuvalo Ruddock vs Lyle Morrison vs Shavers Witherspoon vs Quarry Golota vs Spinks Seldom vs Patterson Mercer vs Bonavena Bonus: Old Holmes vs Old Liston. You can use any versions of that fighter from that era.
Tyson KO 3 Joe Frazier Ali w15 Holyfield Lewis KO 7 Foreman Holmes w15 Bowe Norton TKO 11 Morrer Botha TKO 10 Wepner Bruno KO 1 Cooper Young W12 Tucker McCall w12 Chuvalo ( Chuvalo was diminished by the 70's) Ruddock KO 7 Lyle Shavers KO 2 Morrison ( but could go either way ) Witherspoon TKO 9 Quarry Golata KO 1 Spinks Old Holmes TKO late old Liston. Conclusion: 90's 9 wins. 70's 5 wins. EDIT: some other matchups were added by the OP since I tallied up my points.
Some very good matchups. Tyson vs Frazier (early blowout) Holyfield vs Ali (tough fight) Lewis vs Foreman (older, wilier LL schools Foreman) Bowe vs Holmes Moorer vs Norton (even matchup but Moorer wins w/ much sharper, tighter punches) Botha vs Wepner Bruno vs Cooper (wipeout) Tucker vs Young (peak Tucker outjabs Young) Mcall vs Chuvalo Ruddock vs Lyle Morrison vs Shavers (don't trust Morrison's jaw in this) Witherspoon vs Quarry Golota vs Spinks (blowout) Seldom vs Patterson (even 70s Patterson has skill & power to win) Mercer vs Bonavena Bonus: Old Holmes vs Old Liston. (boxing clinic) 90s: 11 (+ bonus) to 70s: 4. A few of them could have gone either way though.
Tyson vs Frazier - Tyson Early KO Holyfield vs Ali - Ali split decision Lewis vs Foreman - Lewis late TKO (possible Foreman KO) Bowe vs Holmes - Holmes UD Moorer vs Norton - Moorer TKO in mid rounds Botha vs Wepner - Botha UD Bruno vs Cooper - Bruno early KO Tucker vs Young - Young UD against faded Tucker Mcall vs Chuvalo - McCall UD Ruddock vs Lyle - Ruddock by KO in mid rounds Morrison vs Shavers - Wash Witherspoon vs Quarry - Witherspoon KO in mid rounds Golota vs Spinks - Golota early KO Seldom vs Patterson - Patterson KO early Mercer vs Bonavena - Mercer KO late Bonus: Old Holmes vs Old Liston - Wash 10-4 with 2 toss-ups in favor of the 90s.
I have it 10-4-1 in favor of 70s. Certainly McCall Fight, Quarry fight and Morrison fight could go the other way. Tucker-Young too close to call. Agree the 90s pool is a little deeper. But, the top 3 fighters of the 70s are better than the top 3 of the 90s. And, therefore I believe the 70s Heavyweights trump the 90s. Both decades are excellent ones for heavyweights. Makes the abominable current Heavyweight landscape look even more pathetic.
Tyson vs Frazier Holyfield vs Ali Lewis vs Foreman Bowe vs Holmes Moorer vs Norton Botha vs Wepner Bruno vs Cooper Tucker vs Young Mcall vs Chuvalo Ruddock vs Lyle Morrison vs Shavers Witherspoon vs Quarry Golota vs Spinks Seldom vs Patterson Mercer vs Bonavena
Tyson vs Frazier Holyfield vs Ali Lewis vs Foreman Bowe vs Holmes Moorer vs Norton Botha vs Wepner Bruno vs Cooper Tucker vs Young Mcall vs Chuvalo Ruddock vs Lyle Morrison vs Shavers Witherspoon vs Quarry Golota vs Spinks Seldom vs Patterson Mercer vs Bonavena Bonus: Old Holmes vs Old Liston. 1990's 10 wins 1970's 6 wins
Note, I think you could have done a bit better job of picking the best of the 1990's. Bruce Seldon does not belong, and neither did Botha. Ibeabuchi and Vitlai Klitschko were in the 1990's, and they would destroy many of the people picked for the 1970's I'd also add Tua over say Golota.
I agree with a lot of these except Cooper over Bruno and Leon over Golata. Frankly I'm surprised you arrived at those outcomes.
And Leon over Golata as well. Can you imagine the Golata who battered Bowe from pillar to post losing to Leon Spinks?
I find some of McGain's posts odd. Maybe if the Queen's life depended on Cooper winning with only Cooper knew it....Nah, I'd still pick Bruno. I'd also pick Golota over a much smaller and rather mediocre Leon Spinks.
1970s wins most of those For the 1990s ... Botha over Wepner perhaps McCall over Chuvalo. There's a few others that are close either way.