Best Past Prime performance

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  1. Ali4life

    Ali4life Member Full Member

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    Name some fights where a known past it fighter pulled off a great performance on a prime fighter that people may have thought would have been done. Max Schmeling against at least a near peak Joe Louis their first fight is one I pick considering at the time Max was considered past his peak and a underdog against the younger Louis who had been going through opponents and some even thinking he was invincible. Schmeling studied Louis entirely noticing the fact that he would drop his left hand low making him suspect to right hands. Max did well wearing him down to eventually take him out in the 12th. That's just one example of how experience can help give a past it fighter still be on top. You can also add losing efforts as well where the past it fighter didn't get the W but did a lot better than was expected at that point in their career making it a close fight and have a argument of even winning the fight. Well I've talked enough so I'll let you here on ESB do the rest. :good
     
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  2. Tonifranz

    Tonifranz Active Member Full Member

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    Ali Foreman
    Foreman Moorer
    Holmes Mercer
    Hopkins Pavlik
    Hopkins Pascal 1 and 2
    Morales Pacquiao 1
    Vitali Klitshcko Samuel Peter
    Duran Barkley
    Mosley Margarito

    and many many more.
     
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  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney vs Jirov
    McCallum vs Toney 1,2,3
    McCallum vs Watson
    Simon Brown vs Terry Norris #1
    Julian Jackson vs Thomas Tate
    Marlon Starling vs Michael Nunn
    Holyfield vs Tyson (ppl won't like it but Holyfield was and is 4 years older
    ______ and past his prime himself)
    Holyfield vs Lewis #2
    Jese Ferguson vs Ray Mercer 1,2
    Orlin Norris vs Andrezj Golota (Golota did not beat him)
    Marquez vs Pacquiao #3
    Dingaan Thobela vs Glen Catley
    Sam Langford vs Kid Norfolk
    Sam Langford vs Tiger Flowers


    May add more later
     
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  4. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great mentions. Hopkins Pavlik. Masterful, stunning, peformance
    By Hopkins. Bernard literally won every round, kind of ruined Pavlik
    imo. Not a "great performance" and Tyson was favored against Botha
    but Botha won every round with his hit and smother tactics. Then a
    2000 version of Tyson showed what he could do with one punch.
    Morales Pacquiao 1, yes one of my favorit fights Morales definitive
    Win over Pacman, masterful performance. Bowe Golota 2. Bowe
    was past prime and in one of the ugliest fights showed tremendous
    heart. Foreman Moorer has to be #1. Foreman got beat for 91/2
    rounds then a one two combo and Moorer stops punching.
    Another one two, and Moorer was out. My personal favorite
    after Foreman is Hopkins Pavlik though especially when Hopkins
    started throwing the bolo punches unreal. Also I dont think anyone
    mentioned Hopkins vs Tarver, Tarver was heavily favored and he
    got outclassed.
     
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  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Saldivar vs Famechon
    Jofre vs Legra
    Harada vs Famechon(though past prime only because he was a japanese Hatton eating himself through the divisions)
    Kalambay vs Collins

    Starling wasn't past prime against Nunn imo.He moved up during the best run of his career while still razor sharp.he was just above his best weight.
     
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  6. Ali4life

    Ali4life Member Full Member

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    surprised no one mentioned Whitiker vs Dela Hoya considering Whitiker was past his peak and above his best weight
     
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  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "Duran-Camacho 1" of '96... Duran got shafted on the cards....:deal

    SR.BILL:bbb
     
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  8. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    Although a losing effort Duran (25 pounds above best weight) against against hagler
     
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  9. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good choice...:bbb

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  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing

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    Mosley vs Margo....is one of the best in recent years....
     
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  11. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    J.C. Chavez over Ivan Robinson back on PPV in 2005..... No, not a high profile fight, but Chavez at age 42 seemed in great shape for that fight.....

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  12. tommy the hat

    tommy the hat Active Member Full Member

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    A 42 year old Larry Homes beating a prime and undefeated Ray Mercer makes my list.
     
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  13. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Foreman easily winning 8 of the 12 rds against Briggs in 1997 only to get reamed on the cards.....

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  14. Philly-Tough

    Philly-Tough Active Member Full Member

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    Nice call. Wasen't Holmes a 4 to 1 underdog? I remember watching that and being surprised with Mercer's early success, I believed before he was totally schooled. As the fight went on he was more and more though.
     
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  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are many but Duran vs Barkley was the one that immediatly sprung to mind. An underrated one in this context is Ali vs Berbick. Ali was beyond shot, a corpse, and he still gave a strong contender a go.
     
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