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I’d like to hear your reasoning because honestly I’ve never seen you hand Baer praise, or does this have more to do with the calibre of these guys being overrated?
Morrison—> weak chin meets powerful right hand. 90s Foreman—->struggled against or lost to anyone with a pulse.
Max Baer is a favorite of mine, but I find him hard to put in hypothetical matchups. He was terrible looking a lot of times. However, he had some of the of the intangibles that can make someone successful in boxing. This let's him win when he shouldn't (against Schmeling is a good example). Also, I think his weight at the time he completed give people now a false sense of his real size. He was fighting when heavyweights tried hard to keep their weight down to be faster (at least that was the thought). Dempsey took daily shots of olive oil in camp in an attempt to keep his weight down. If you've seen him in some of the comedy shorts he did after retiring you have a better sense of his size. He was a big guy. Modern athletes diet and nutritionist and he'd probably look a monster. Might mess some guys up... or not.
He has a puncher’s chance against anyone with a weak chin. I know that doesn’t do much to specifically answer the question but that’s about the best I can do. The key here is that it ALSO has to be a chinny fighter who he can land flush on and preferably more than once. A guy like John Tate would be at high risk
Agree. He had an iron chin, power in both hands and a lot of attitude. But his fundamentals and generalship were lacking severely. That’s not to say that he had NO skills whatsoever, but it’s not preposterous to think that a lot of later amateurs might have made him look clumsy.