Best SMWs of all time?

Thank you. I try and give facts and details but you can guarantee that many post, based on hype

 

I like how you have given 10 SMWs and made a decision, but how could you have Ward, Froch or Jones above Eubank, who has done so much more at SMW?
Or Bute above Ottke? etc

 

hahaha I asked myself the same, they truly think ward of now could beat a prime roy

 

Quality of opposition they beat and how they beat them.

 

Tell me how you think Ward has a better resume than Eubank

Eubank - winner of 13 SMW title fights and 2 draws, won the WBO SMW title but also drew with the WBC SMW champ

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, and beat the undefeated relinquished IBF SMW champ Rocchigiani, add in

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who after losing to Eubank twice became WBC SMW champ, former champ

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then all of the other top 10 SMWs,

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. Out of Eubanks 18 WBO SMW title fights 14 of those fights were against fighters who were, had been or became top 10 SMWs. One was a unification and another was against the undefeated former IBF SMW champ (relinquished his title). In fact 6 of the fighters he faced had been or became world champs, then consider that 2 of Eubanks SMW title defeats were to the same fighter where the first was a debateable decision and the second a SD and you have the number 2 SMW.

Eubank beat an undefeated SMW champ, beat a fighter who twice won a SMW title after, drew with a top SMW rival, and beat top SMW after another.
Wards best win is Kessler who was rusty and unwell when beaten. Good win all the same and Froch was beaten by unwell Kessler coming off a loss. Other than that he has no top SMW wins. Dawson has no SMW pedigree and isnt as good a win as Eubank beating undefeated former IBF SMW champ Rocchigiani who was a SMW champ and became a LHW champ where he looked unlucky to undefeated Michalczewski and undefeated Maske, to top world champs and who beat Nunn.
Eubanks win over Watson is greater than Wards over Bika.
Eubanks win over Malinga is similar in level to Wards over Froch.
Eubanks grouped wins over other top SMWs like Holmes, Wharton plus the others overall outweigh one over an unwell Kessler and the draw with top SMW champ Benn that Eubank had a win over is another swing to Eubank.
18 WBO SMW title fights 14 of those fights were against fighters who were, had been or became top 10 SMWs. One was a unification and another was against the undefeated former IBF SMW champ (relinquished his title). In fact 6 of the fighters he faced had been or became world champs

 

Wins over Froch and Kessler are far better than anything on Eubank's record. Eubank lost to Collins twice.

After the Watson bout, Eubank was involved in a lot of close fights and just sneeked out decisions.

Eubank never fought Roy Jones, James Toney, Michael Nunn

 

I think it is undeniable that Sven Ottke is the best super middleweight that has ever been, or will ever be :yep

 

He has a very good SMW resume. I have him at number 3 with that resume

 

That because he just fought at home with dodgy judges and ref, Hmm maybe him and Ward have something in common.

Robin Reid got robbed in Germany, disgraceful officiating, one of the worst in history.

 

eubank was a tough cookie but holding wbo title, which was worthless at the time, really dents his credentials if you want to call him a champ.

you cant expect to be ranked high if you defend a worthless title that noone wants.

I could invent a SMW title tommorrow (lets call it the WBI title) and then defend it 21 times against my brother, my sister, my neighbour with Parkinsons disease and Bob the builder next door but it dont mean I am going to last more than 2 seconds versus James Toney. Similar tone, though I wouldnt last more than 2 seconds v Eubie either.

 

I seem to recall scoring closely for Reid against Ottke, but Reid did have it tough over there.
Ottke and Reid were both past their best in that fight and not prime.
Other than that, I dont think Ottke had any other really dodgy decisions.
Which ones do you think were dodgy, but please dont just point at SDs unless you know the fights

 

Its not the belt that makes the fighter, its who they fought.
People bring up Eubank who helped mould the belt that was good enough to give T Hearns a slice of history making. Out of Eubanks 18 WBO SMW title fights 14 of those fights were against fighters who were, had been or became top 10 SMWs. One was a unification and another was against the undefeated former IBF SMW champ (relinquished his title). In fact 6 of the fighters he faced had been or became world champs.

In those defences Eubank fought the undefeated (relinquished) IBF SMW champ and the WBC SMW champ.
Cant see what difference that belt makes to that comp.
I guess you think the fighter makes the belt, but with that silly thinking just look at how at MW Martinez had his WBC belt stripped, won by Chavez who hasnt beaten any outstanding fighters, then fought WBO MW champ Martinez and lost, though you think the belt makes a better fighter atsch

 

If you can watch that fight and not be digusted by it, you are not a boxing fan.

Reid was landed good punches and the ref was warning him against it, giving Ottke time to recover.

And they were not past their prime.