Best strategy for a boxer vs a mma fighter?

i agree with this to a certain extent but most kids joining gyms see mma on tv and come into a mma gym with no experieence of any fighting sport. they want to be tough and hard which is fine but trying to learn 3 arts all at once means he skill level is very average in each. i have sparred boxing with loads of mmafighters and by and large they arent that hot. i sparred a while ago with some area champion who has own gym and his boxing was terrible.

so i have nothing to add top technique sugestions apart from chuck did ok didnt he.....

and anyone who wants to fight mma i would train intensively in thai or ju jitsu foirst for a year and then add another skill...

 

Post them..... I'll wait. I want to see pure boxers whipping the Gracie's ass.

I could show you Art Jimmerson vs Royce Gracie.

You aren't going to find too many boxers that would transition to MMA for a couple of reasons. There is more money to be made in boxing and most boxers know that they would get worked over in the cage if they just decided to jump over.

 

Lol there is no reason to make even more alt accounts, there are no PURE boxers; besides the old guys.

 

Waiting...

 

Ummm.... I know you are trolling but damn...

It's obvious that you know very little about MMA but I don't mind. If you would actually ask questions instead of being an ass, you might learn something. Besides, your argument has changed so many times that it is hard to keep straight what we are actually arguing.

I'd be happy to talk to you more if you are willing to admit you know nothing of MMA. Boxing is a part of MMA. You won't find Mayweather caliber boxers in MMA b/c there isn't enough time to train one area that extensively. Elite boxers spend all of their time perfecting boxing so it would be the case that they couldn't excel at all aspects of MMA if they transitioned. That is why a boxer would loose that battle. It has been evident since UFC 1. Look at a boxing match and watch how many times they clinch. For every clinch like that in a MMA setting, that is a whole different battle. I doubt a pure boxer would even have the grappling cardio to go 3 five minute rounds, it is a different type of cardio.

I love boxing and know that in a ring, MMA fighters don't stand a chance. Doesn't mean that MMA doesn't have decent boxers. There are pro boxers that went to MMA such as Chris Lytle, Marcus Davis, and KJ Noons. There are some golden gloves winners as well. It just carries over that a boxer would do as good at MMa as a MMA fighter would do as a pure boxer. THe difference is, MMA represents a more realistic scenario for a fight then just boxing.

Meh, I could go on but whatever. You wouldn't listen anyways.

 

There you go

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he is fighting nick diaz next week, boxer turned mma fighter and he is kicking ass. Is a well rounded fighter with his hands being the strength

 

Melvin Manhoef is a professional MMA fighter. He was Cage Rage light heavyweight champion for almost two years. He's not a pure kickboxer/boxer.

Try again.

 

The referee in that match stinks.

 

*kind of off topic* I don't think Noons will beat nick diaz this time although I wish he would. His boxing ability and boxing IQ really was the difference in their first right though.

 

Aggression. Hit the pace immediately and explode with the very best combination you got, don't stop until he's gone or you are on your back. Its probably not going to work, but its the only thing you can do that may succeed. MMA fighters do it on eachother and if the other guys freezes(Which even world champions in both sports do) you can get off and thereby have a chance.

I train MMA fighters hands, and have just begun to take free grappling lessons as part of my payment for doing so. And I do agree with the one guy about levels. My first lesson last week I more than held my own against a guy who had been there for months but had no real decoration, strength. That same practice, one of the black belts tied me into 6 different kinds of pretzels.

The guy has to be GOOD at his grappling to be effective. If you are a good boxer and a decent athlete, and he has good knowledge and experience grappling but is in worse condition or just isn't plain good at it, he'll struggle with you(Or smaller-Seen a D1 wrestler at 135 pounds get annihilated sparring a superheavyweight boxer who wanted to tangle. His wrestling didn't count for much against that kind of disparity).

Assuming the guy is a decent MMA fighter, bumrush him firing your best stuff, and hope you either clip him or he forgets himself. You'll have trouble otherwise in that your probably headed for an ass whipping.

Again, though, I must say, all those claiming MMA dominance are assuming a level of skill that many who train just do not possess. If you're in an MMA fight with a damn good MMA fighter, you should second guess the decisions that got you there. If its in a street fight, kick him in the nuts.

 

I don't know if this was mentioned, as I can't be ****ed to sift through 11 pages of text.

However, I haven't seen anything about certain topics I absolutely hate about MMA, which I will explain now.
First, and probably the most important is the fact that MMA has many rules that make it so there is no way that it is close to a real life situation, as some people argue. True, any type of fighting training will help, but I wouldn't recommend MMA. MMA has a lot of groundwork that exposes the back of your head, and in a real life situation it's not always 1v1.
Second, the rules in MMA, as far as I know so feel free to correct me, don't allow joint locks, which kills entire schools of martial arts. Hapkido, which I train in joint to Tae Kwon Do.
Third, many MMA fighters don't seem to master any form of martial arts, but pick at and take little pieces of each.
Last, from what I've seen at least, there is no respect, with the exception of one match I saw which was Chung Le.

 

1) The rules protect that opponent. Thats like saying boxing isnt like a proper fist fight because you wear gloves and have to stand up when taken down so a guy with no experience will beat a boxer in fist fight. Rubbish, in a real fist fight, the boxers hands will do more damage, be faster, harder to block, and after he knocks you down he will kick you in the head.

The same goes for MMA. Yes there are rules, take away those rules and you should be scared for your life. In MMA part of the rules is you must stop when your opponent taps out, in real life , if someones gets you into an armbar, he could very well snap that off.

The groundwork would expose the back of your opponents head, not yours. You take your opponent down with the intention of being on top. I agree using stand up is better for fighting multiple opponents, good thing MMA includes stand up huh? Some of the guys are K1 (kickboxing) champs.

Of course being very good at MMA wont guarantee you winning a fight, nothing does, even a gun doesn't, theres still an element of chance and luck involved.

2) Joint locks are allowed in MMA.

3) What is this BS about? Seriously? Where do you get your information from? Of course the average mma fighter isnt gonna be a master of one art, just as your average boxer isnt a master of boxing. However on the top level, you got guys who are indeed masters. Black belts in BJJ, practically the masters/inventors themselves. You got K1 kickboxing champions. Fedor is 7 time Sambo champion. You got olympic level Wrestlers and Judo practioners. You got Karate, kempo black belts of probably the highest levels. You just dont get the top boxers in their prime, simply because there is more money in boxing, apart from that though, they come from all sorts of different martial arts.

 

It's been answered already but I will reiterate.

Joint locks are indeed allowed, that is what an armbar is (your elbow joint) and a knee bar. SMALL JOINT manipulation is not allowed. Something like trying to break a finger. MMA is a sport and they look out for their fighters. Breaking fingers will keep the person out of training and is needless. Since it is a small joint, it is easy to break and hard to apply without breaking. You can armbar someone for the tap and not break their arm, that is why joint locks are allowed but not small joint.

MMA isn't just like a street fight but it is a better representation of a real one on one fight. The original UFCs were just that, a street fight (but 1 on 1). They had to develop regulations to get sanctioned and hold events. They do certain things that are "deadly" or that would maim someone b/c it is a sport. It is more of a true fight than any other organized contact sport.

MMA training would help tremendously. What if you get jumped by two guys and fall down? Your boxing isn't going to help you but your BJJ would allow you to get back to your feet more easily. Wrestling would help b/c you could dump someone on their head, turn the corner, and be squared to take ont he next guy. Thai would probably be most beneficial b/c the plum allows you to control a guy with his head and put him in between you and his friends all while kneeing his stomach inside out.

No masters? You don't have the best guy in the world from each discipline b/c those guys compete in their sport exclusively b/c they are the best but you do have some bad asses.

Fedor - Sambo Champ
Randy C. - Olympic alternate
Maia- ADCC champ (Abu Dhabi, look it up)
Pat Berry- Accomplished kickboxer
Numerous fighters were golden gloves winners
Overeem- very successful kickboxer
Lesnar- National wrestling champ
Carwin- Same
Chael Sonnen- Same
You have multiple black belts in different disciplines. GSP is a black belt in BJJ and Karate.

There is a tremendous amount of respect shown from fighters. Look at GSP, Fedor, Werdum, Anderson Silva (on most days), Randy C, and a bunch of others. Sure you have the loud mouths that give the sport a bad name but every sport has those, can anyone say Floyd Mayweather Jr.?