take into account that neither opponent in this "street fight" knows of the others capabilities, [boxer, mma] a take down can be voided with an eye gouge followed by some evasive "gettin the **** up." A boxer could duck right into a knee I read somewhere that alot of jack dempseys earlier fights where against mixed martial artists...<-?
Everything has its risks. If you get taken down and you're a boxer, hope that one of your friends is around to punt the mother****er's head clear to Timbuktu or be prepared to hurt a lot. You can grab for the nuts or gouge the eyes or bite, but a dude with a decent ground game could mount you and KO you or rip your arm into two pieces. The kicking game is a good way to mess with a boxer, too. It's hard to get inside on someone when they have a good set of kicks. Learning some rudimentary takedown defense doesn't hurt though.
That's mostly because Maia: 1. Sucks at kicking 2. Didn't have his hands up but yeah, a straight right is a good counter for a leg kick, especially Maia's notorious hands at your sides hop in telegraph kick
use the distance,keep jabbing and uppercutting. move in circles,use side steps, never stand still. MMA fighters are not used to run alot,so use your stamina. after eating about fifty jabs, he will automatically slow down. then it is your time to KO him or make hi quit due exhaustion. sound easier that its done,but thats the key
MMA fighters do just as much conditioning work as boxers, half of them are ex boxers/muay thai fighters. It's simple and it's obvious, unless the boxer can knock out the guy he's going to lose. Look at it this way - Boxer - can punch and move, that's about it. MMA fighter - punches, kicks, elbows, knees, takedowns, submissions. A fight goes well towards the MMA guy winning. But as usual with these things it comes down to the individual fighter.
I have been training a group of mma fighters over the lest 6 months or so, with a view to improving their punching form, and defense. One thing that they all had in common is they were wide open for punches straight down the pipe... quite alarmingly so actually. We worked on a few things here and there to improve them, but it is proving very difficult as they don't tend to see striking as their main style, so fundamentally from the stance and balance, they are flawed from a punch mechanics point of view. In addition to this, they don't appear to like slipping punches, and tend to want to rely on parrying or catching shots with their head. Through my training and sparring with a few of them, I found great success with straight punches, varying the range a lot (2 phase attacks, feinting with feet etc). Dealing with sprawls can be difficult, but if you look hard enough you will see that a half step back and uppercut is on, most of the time.
certainly agree, it always depends on the fighting rules. besides that,i havent seen too many MMA fighers who box really WELL.
I would say a boxer's first line of defense is to learn take down defense. Sprawling out/a front leg grab, and scrambling like hell back to his feet. A boxer in the guard is toast. Boxer/Boxer Puncher? TONS of feints, jabs, and MOVEMENT. Then quick jabs and rear hand feints hoping to cause a shoot. On a half-assed shoot I would unload with lead hooks and maybe a quick straight. On a committed shoot I would uppercut/hook and push off HARD with my lead hand. Rinse-repeat. Brawler? Swarm him while maintaining distance! Punches in bunches. Stay low, square and balanced. Too close, he grabs behind the arms and pulls you into his guard. To high he shoots. ALWAYS be ready to push him off so no leaning like in boxing. Even if you fall on him the fight is over. Go in, get off, get out, shift to his weak side, repeat. I say all of this not taking serious kicking into account. For a boxer that range is strange. I sparred with Tae Kwan Do guys and it took a few rounds to even "see" a kick. You don't have rounds in a street fight.
I am so sick of that million weapons crap. Expert (hand striking) versus a jack of all trades. Kicks higher than the waist throw you off balance. Kicks lower than the waist negate the range advantage. Elbows/knees require close range. Punches require a person being less skilled than you. Submissions can only be used AFTER the take down. With that said 60% of the advantage is nullified just by the tools of boxing.
Really well? How about decent? Most of those guys wind up like comic book characters. If an MMA guy added a mean 1-2 to his arsenal he would probably KO tons of "strikers".
Hendo, I have read a few of your posts now and, you don't sound like you know much about fighting. A single-leg takedown is very effective. I use it whenever I fight somebody taller and rangier than me. If two men are standing on there feet, they each can do the same things to each other, however, if I shoot for a single-leg and put you on your back, I know can do things to you, due to my position, that you can not do to me.
Than you must not watch too much MMA. Kimbo Slice, Rampage Jackson, Anderson Silva, Frank Edgar, and BJ Penn all have excellent hands. James Toney isn't too shabby, neither