Best strategy for a boxer vs a mma fighter?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Bogotazo, Apr 5, 2010.


  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Wow, looking up this old thread really surprises me at the amount of technical answers given here and the recent crap being spewed after the Couture-Toney fight. I think the question is still largely unanswered, but these posts are a lot better than every other boxing/mma discussion I've seen, especially with people who have tried boxing against or teaching boxing mechanics to mma fighters.
     
  2. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It basically boils down to minimizing weaknesses and maximizing strengths. The boxer MUST have good feet but not to evade/escape. He must have good feet so that he is always in position to throw a punch with either hand. More likely than not, the grappler will be shooting in trying to sweep the boxer and this will present an extraordinary opportunity if the boxer is able to anticipate, time and place the punch properly. This is obviously much easier said than done against quality competition but it's definitely possible with structured training/sparring/experience...given that the physical tools are there.
     
  3. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think you'd ever have a lot of success in an MMA fight or an actual fight by trying to stay on your feet and punch. It's just too easy to get taken down.

    However, it's really not difficult to learn some basic throws or sprawls to counter a guy taking you down. Leg kicks are almost common sense. Not hard to throw effectively.

    Learn some basic submissions and how to stay out of them/feel them setting up. You escape and get back up.

    And if it's an actual fight, fight dirty. If a guy shoots on you, why not try to sprawl, then rip his eyes out? And if you end up in a guy's guard, why not destroy his testicles? A lot of MMA/BJJ guys can get drunk and forget that A. They shouldn't be fighting people, and B. The rules do not apply.
     
  4. G_Hoppa

    G_Hoppa New Member Full Member

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    In a ring, never plant your feet, move constantly. Learn a sprawl. It's not that hard. Practice overhand right/straight right and uppercut timing as someone shoots in on you. Probably wouldn't hurt to practice dirty boxing/clinch work too. Learn to find and execute on every oppertunity presented to you in those situations. Unless you have alot of time to practice/learn timing, i would not advocate kicks of any kind. It is too easy too be taken down while standing on 1 leg.

    On the street, i say it's 50/50. Use every last scrap of energy you have to stay on your feet, keep blasting and fight dirty. If he trys a wrestling style single or double leg takedown, punch him in the back of the head, see how effective he thinks it is then. 50/50.
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You say it like this is the easy part. What you're talking about takes years of practice to use effectively, it's not just learning a few things over a weekend.
     
  6. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really depends on how good the other guy is. If he's a D-1 wrestler or pro MMA fighter, he's probably kicking your ass regardless. But if he's just some dude who knows a little BJJ or thinks he's hot **** because he had a few amateur fights, it pretty much IS that easy.

    Though not over a weekend. Few months should bring you up to speed.
     
  7. Windigo

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  8. badr_hari

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    boxer vs MMA fighter in boxing rules? The boxer takes it and The MMA fighter has NO CHANCE

    boxer vs MMA fighter in mma rules? The MMA fighter takes it, BUT the boxer has ONE CHANCE (if the other dude is not a good grappler and wants to stand up a lil bit will get wrecked by the Tremendous Speed and Accuracy of Boxer's punches)

    in a street fight (bar fight) i would take my friend (a Krav Maga Teacher) above both the boxer and MMA fighter. Huh, in NO rules fights with your life in danger you never know what will happen

    off topic: I like and RESPECT unique Martial Arts and Martial Artists (Boxing, Muay thai, San Da, Wrestling, Judo, BJJ) MORE than MMA because a Boxer, or a Nak Muay, or a wrestler or a judokan IS MASTER at what he does, while the MMA fighters are MEDIOCRE or POOR at what they do. The Human being is created that way so There won't be an ALL ROUNDED MMA fighter who can BOX better than Ali, WRESTLE better than Karelin, KICK better than Buakaw, KNEE better than Diesel Noi etc etc
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not true at all. Why does a boxer have a chance in an MMA fight but an MMA fighter have no chance in a boxing match? No sense. Some MMA fighters are ex professional boxers, they always have a puncher's chance.

    I agree with the Krav Maga comment, those guys are ****ing lethal!
     
  10. Youngblood

    Youngblood Active Member Full Member

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    ^^ this

    close off range for take down quickly, finish fast.

    an example:

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  11. Onepunch

    Onepunch Prestigeous clincher Full Member

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    It really bothers me when people whack out the old cliche 'eye gouge' or the famous 'kick to the nutsack'.. Do you think the MMA guy is incapable of doing that also?

    also.. eye gouge against takedown? really?.. You know you'd still be on the floor, under a guy who knows how to wrestle right?

    The correct answer in this situation ladies and gentlemen is to learn some ****ing jits.. you WILL get taken down if you don't finish the fight in seconds.
     
  12. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. The whole "time an uppercut or hook when they come in for a takedown" isn't going to happen, with an experienced fighter you won't see the shoot coming.

    You'd have to be a ****ing idiot (good example, Tim Sylvia) to stand and exchance with a boxer. Would be like a boxer agreeing to a wrestling match with Randy Couture, just idiotic.
     
  13. ElGalloNegro

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    :cool: That's a good one.
     
  14. ElGalloNegro

    ElGalloNegro Member Full Member

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    This is good info. thanks for sharing.
     
  15. ElGalloNegro

    ElGalloNegro Member Full Member

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    off topic: I like and RESPECT unique Martial Arts and Martial Artists (Boxing, Muay thai, San Da, Wrestling, Judo, BJJ) MORE than MMA because a Boxer, or a Nak Muay, or a wrestler or a judokan IS MASTER at what he does, while the MMA fighters are MEDIOCRE or POOR at what they do. The Human being is created that way so There won't be an ALL ROUNDED MMA fighter who can BOX better than Ali, WRESTLE better than Karelin, KICK better than Buakaw, KNEE better than Diesel Noi etc etc[/quote]

    My coach is of the same opinion as well.