Best strategy for a boxer vs a mma fighter?

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  1. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    MMA fighters are very versatile. Depending on the fighter they usually have a background in something they are very good at. Example - Randy Couture - Olympic level wrestler. The 3 parts to a fighter are standing (boxing, kickboxing etc), takedown and ground game. Good fighters always have a high level past in one or more of these parts. To say they are mediocre or crap at everything is very ignorant.
     
  2. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. badr_hari

    badr_hari Member Full Member

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    they are not versatile and you just proved it by saying "That they are VERY GOOD at ONE THING"

    Randy Couture - Olympic level wrestler? yeah, in 1992. Lol that is like Tyson starting an MMA career today and saying he IS HIGHT LEVEL BOXER.

    A SOMETIME WAS GOOD in wrestling, with LITTLE BJJ, CRAP boxing, CRAP muay thai = POOR at MOST

    i just can't see fighters with LITTLE boxing knock out people with ZERO boxing, or people with LITTLE wrestling take down people with ZERO wrestling. I want MASTERS fighting each other. and Those MASTERS does not exist in MMA
     
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  4. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It doesn't take a master of anything to win a fight. Put the best boxer in the world against a decent MMA fighter and most likely the MMA fighter will win because they're more versatile than a boxer.

    Being a master of one thing is like taking a knife to a gun fight. When people prefer to stand in an MMA match they are known as strikers, that isn't a claim that they're amazing boxers, just they are MMA fighters with some striking ability.

    Why you are getting so upset I don't know. It's like you see MMA as some insult to boxing.
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Depends on the MMA fighter. As a boxer?

    -- Understanding of a sprawl
    -- Lateral movement
    -- A mean uppercut
    -- Ability to close quickly, deliver damage, and get the hell away again
    -- Good balance to keep a clinch high and push off to create space
    -- A mindset that realized that the "shoot" can and will happen

    It is an interesting question. I would either use pin point punching or damaging flurries. Honestly, unless he knows what he is getting into early? I don't think a Boxer has much chance not due to the quality of his heart or his art, but due to the holes in it. Same way pure collegiate wrestlers were owned in MMA in the beginning. BJJ dudes just waited them out from the bottom because they didn't have "fight ending" experience.

    As a guy who started in BJJ and moved to boxing, I am not sure why boxers take it so personal.
     
  6. ElGalloNegro

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    Watch the movie Undisputed III: Redemption to see a boxer defend and win against a kickboxer.

    There was no ground game in that scene.
     
  7. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think a lot of us have to realize that old school MMA is dead the unified rules are bull**** and give the wrestlers an invisible force-field through which they cannot be touched as they take their shot.

    Its very simple. Under the unified rules no strikes are allowed from a standing position on a grounded fighter. So all the wrestlers has to do is go to a knee as they take a shot and they cannot be touched. Couture for example abuses the **** out of this rule. So thinking that you are going to counter their shots with strikes is a worthless strategy as it is largely illegal.
     
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  9. libtolu

    libtolu New Member Full Member

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    You must not watch a lot of boxing because it doesn't compare.

    And kimbos hands are **** even for mma.
     
  10. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody said it does compare. Being able to punch and being able to box are 2 different things.
     
  11. vonLPC

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    It is always best if a fighter is knowingly encountering an MMA fighter to understand the fundamentals of the non-boxing elements, but if you answer I'd appreciate a boxing-focused approach.[/quote]

    Assuming the MMA fighter means a ground guy:

    MMA/defensive wrestling Strategies
    1)Bring stance down, decreasing the distance between you arms and hips to use underhooks.
    2)square your stance. This makes your hips less accessible.
    3)Disalign the neck, making finishing the takedown close to impossible.
    4)Push on the head.

    Boxing strategies
    1)Put your punches lower-making it harder to shoot the takedown under the shots cleanly.
    2) Don't remain stagnate with footwork.
    3) Don't shoulder roll
    4) Uppercuts
    5) We have a rule for our MMA guys that want to stay up(2 seconds in an exchange and get out). Anything longer is too long and gives MMA fighter a chance to work for high tie ups.
    6) Be aggressive and throw punches straight.

    In all honesty, a boxer stands little chance in a fight with multiple rules. It's like an NFL team having an excellent run game, poor special teams, lousy pass defense, can't stop the run, and no passing game. How many games would they win if they did just one facet of the game well?
     
  12. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with that completely.

    Defensive BJJ-Triangle, arm bar, guillotine choke defense, get guard/stand up.

    Defensive wrestling basics-digging underhooks, heavy hips on sprawls, wizzer.

    Stance-change to a hybrid of boxing/wrestling
     
  13. Jared

    Jared Active Member Full Member

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    **** running away from them, All MMA fighters have glass chins, thye're the ones who fight scared. You just need to be evade a take down long enough to land a single solid shot. Put any decent boxer with fast hands in with the best MMA can offer and it'll be a repeat of Mercer - Sylvia
     
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  14. vonLPC

    vonLPC Active Member Full Member

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    For anyone who has ever tried to punch against an MMA guy who knows his basic singles/doubles/high ties that is a very hard task. Given the head position of those who shoot for take downs and the proficiency they can change levels, it is very hard to land anything at all. As for Mercer/Sylvia, Sylvia has never taken anybody down and always tries to keep a fight standing. Any MMA fighter who does this will get KOd by fighters such as Mercer. Sylvia should have thrown a few punches just like Kimbo did against Mercer, then immediately hug him and worked from there.
     
  15. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're obviously upset over something and throwing out random silly insults but if you honestly believe this then you're an idiot.

    Explain.

    Ahhhh it's that easy. If it's as simple as that why aren't boxers joining up to the UFC and dominating?

    If an MMA fighter strikes with a boxer using just hands, maybe. An MMA fighter that has a clue would use kicks and go in for a takedown vs a boxer. Sylvia is a complete idiot and a **** fighter.

    Overall I think you need to rethink what you're saying because your entire post was complete bull****.