Best strategy for a boxer vs a mma fighter?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Bogotazo, Apr 5, 2010.


  1. Nipple

    Nipple I hate my username banned

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    Just don't fight him.

    I mean as a boxer you are VERY one dimensional, and the takedown has a MUCH higher chance of landing than a ko blow does (sorry, fact).

    Take away a boxers hands and it's going to be a long night for the boxer i'm afraid....

    Awesome, and i mean AWESOME footwork *could* be benefical, but you would have to be super quick and VERY powerful with your shots.

    Other than that, i see no way of really winning, unless you land a lottery punch.
     
  2. Onepunch

    Onepunch Prestigeous clincher Full Member

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    I can't believe this thread is still going.

    You literally can't win about 90% of the time or more if you are a boxer vs an mma fighter.

    I love boxing, It is my favourite of the sports I do. But I still train wrestling, Judo and occasionally BJJ because being well rounded is just as important as being good at one thing.
     
  3. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't need to land a 1 punch Ko, just keep yoru distance. I also wrestle and can tell you that learning boxing is very much more difficult than learning how to wrestle
     
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  4. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Examples where people study both forms, like this one and the other post were an instructor pointed out the weaknesses in the punching of an mma fighter, show that it's not out of this world for a boxer to maneuver against someone who can wrestle.
     
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  5. Nipple

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    I agree. ;)

    I train in boxing, judo and have dabbled in bjj. Yet if you don't land GOOD blows, then you're ****ed basically.

    What will you do with your distance though?

    You HAVE TO get in range to punch, and the chances of you being taken down are HIGH.

    You should know this if you train in other combat sports that aren't called boxing.... :D
     
  6. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are ways of keeping your distance but getting into YOUR range, it's all about control. Look at Martinez, he keeps just far enough to avoid but takes a half step in and he's hitting you.

    Wrestling takedowns are very secure, but in wrestling you're not always on your toes, you do stand in front of eachother trying to gain control. I've only done wrestling for 1 year, but I got 3rd in in regionals which is pretty good for a first timer.
     
  7. floyd1982

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    MMA fighter is too loose of a term for designing a good gameplan. What is the MMA fighter's strengths? What are his weakness? He can be a great wrestler or a crap wrestler with great kicks. I assume you are talking about someone wanting to take the fight to the ground so I will give my two cents about that first:

    You have to move and punch on the fly. Planting your feet to land that power shot is going to get you put on the ground hard. Percentages are against you trying to land a big KO blow before getting taken down. There is a plethora of examples of boxers/kickboxers being taken down before landing a standing KO: Art Jimmerson, Ray Mercer/Kimbo, Ramon Dekker/Genki Sudo, pretty much any striker vs Randy or Tito in their primes etc. It just isn't a good idea to sit on those power punches.

    Anytime you see a level change, GET OUT! Level changes mean shots are coming or that he is going to fake the shot and come over top with a haymaker. Pop out the jab while you are retreating, you have a better chance winning the lottery than KOing the dude. Plus, a solid punch doesn't equal a KO so you may hurt him but you are now in foreign territory. Learning to sprawl is a good idea but there are sooo many other options to take you down that the sprawl doesn't do **** for. Level changes can set up singles, doubles, low singles, high crotches, and body locks.

    The other thing to keep in mind is if you are keeping your distance and avoiding the shot, you are at optimal range to get your legs kicked off or your head kicked in. Head kicks are not easy to see coming if you don't have experience and a solid leg kick to someone not trained to take them can end the fight. A strict boxer will have a hard time with a well rounded MMA fighter and it is just that simple.
     
  8. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok, so I sparred against a MMA fighter yesterday and actually I was pretty successful. Ok, so first thing was he was mostly muay thai and BJJ based. So first thing was his punches were very short as compared to mine and he found his range using the front kick rather than a jab. My footwork was key, side to side movement stopped him from throwing his kicks and when he did throw them I was able to move in close enough to throw my punches.

    Ok now as far as the take downs, there wasn't anything special about it. In BJJ it's mostly about crowding as far as anything, so range was a HUGE factor in that. He did grab ahold of me, but I kept cool and did a hard pivot which actually worked and pretty much got me through everything.

    Now idk if this would work on every fighter, but he had the basic 2 mma styles so who knows.
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The guy allowed you to use your strengths (boxing) against him by not taking you down. This means one of 3 things, he was trying to prove something (he thinks he has good hands or whatever), he sucks at MMA or he just wasn't really trying.

    Any decent fighter would try to remove his opponents strong points. A boxer on the floor or in a clinch is ****ed vs an MMA fighter that has a clue. A boxer only really has a chance if the MMA fighter decides he wants to try and prove something and stand with a boxer, these guys are idiots, aka Tim Sylvia.
     
  10. Onepunch

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    ^this.
     
  11. floyd1982

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    Or it could have been that he was just trying to get better with his striking. Perhaps he isn't that good of a striker and used the sparring time as a way to improve something while not trying to prove anything.

    It has already been shown that in a fight, boxers have a puncher's chance. Best way to fight the dude is to either: not fight him or have some friends that will grab you guys and make you stand back up.
     
  12. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol for some reason people automatically assume a fight is getting to the ground, a boxer is not going to just let you take him down. I have wrestling experience so I know a thing or two but even then that's my last option
     
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    It doesn't even have to go straight to the ground, if an MMA fighter grabs you at all he isn't letting go. It's a matter of time before it goes to the ground vs a decent MMA fighter, then it's over.
     
  14. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because I'm just going to let them grab me without landing bombs? After sparring the other day I could tell you that this mma bull**** is overrated
     
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    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You won't exactly allow them to grab you but it'll happen. To hit someone you have to be close to your opponent. To land a "bomb" as you put it you have to plant your feet, you'll be standing still for a second or more and you'll most likely be off balance. You better hope you land that punch perfectly as if you don't you're going to the ground. But then again if you keep throwing "bombs" you'll gas and be an even easier target to take down. There's many fighters that will happily take the chance of taking a solid punch to put you on the ground. Tony was going on and on about how he was going to land bombs, he didn't even throw a single punch before he was on his arse.

    Really? So you spar some nobody at your gym and you can say boxing is superior to MMA? Haha. You keep thinking that :good Thats like saying a 6 inch blade is superior to a swiss army knife, just not true.