Best technical boxer pre 1940?

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  1. DrederickTatum

    DrederickTatum We really outchere. Full Member

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    I don't hold any salt in someones opinion unless I can verify it. Will watch some footage though.
     
  2. surfinghb1

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    Read his story what he did in the war .. Sometimes boxing , like all sports, is so much heart and mental ... Then you will understand what type of a man he was..
     
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    surfinghb1 Member Full Member

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    I understand that .. It is the old argument here that I have to see it for myself vs look at the resume and decide ...
     
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  4. DrederickTatum

    DrederickTatum We really outchere. Full Member

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    If it's a good story I'll have a google mate, regardless of boxing.

    To me the best way to measure a boxer's ability is by seeing it. I just don't see anything eye-catching with Gans. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough.
     
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    He threw the lead right , a pioneer at it ... Boxing is completely different now than then... Back then , boxers were incredibly active and fought way more rounds, more infighting, more body attack .. So you have to take that into consideration ... save energy, economical movement vs the coddled fighters of today who are brought a long to only fight twice a year, maybe once or longer ... It's a different sport
     
  6. Seamus

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    Another one....

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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Do you see any skill in Money May or BHop? There is a lot of Gans in both.
     
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    Of the fighters I have seen and done some studying:

    • Joe Louis: I still marvel at his 3 straight hooks on Max Baer and his rock and counter rights that flattened a man and former champion that almost weighed 100 pounds more that him, Canera.

    • Sam Langford: Turns his shoulder like James Toney, but hits like Joe Louis.

    • Jack Johnson: One of the first pure counterpunchers to master the art. Completely in control of all of his opponents timing.

    • Benny Leonard: Keep his head a bit high for my taste but could get around the ring and counter.

    • Joe Gans: From the film, he isn’t as smooth as the name “Old Master” would imply, but he could and did employ jabbing to get his opponents timing and could duck, slip and counter opponents, and finish them. All this while going upwards of 20-plus rounds

    • Gene Tunney: Can Infight or box on the outside. Career defining wins for technical boxers over Dempsey.

    • Barney Ross: Would be a model of standardized boxing today. Did not have KO power but stayed at midrange, slipping and ducking and countering.

    • (Fun pick) Mickey Walker: From the film I remember seeing, he was a fighter who used his Boxing skill to get inside..always throwing in combination.
     
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  9. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Sam Langford
     
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    Possibly the greatest Flyweight H2H ever, and one of my classic favourites - crazy record and style. Unbelievable that he also went the distance with Armstrong at Feather whilst shot. Both fights here are past prime as well! Bebop Boxing master!

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  12. 70sFan865

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    As this thread shows, there is a ton of skilled fighters before 1940. I don't get this idea that good boxing started after, it makes no sense...
     
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    What do you think of Tommy Burns? Outside of Johnson fight, he looks smart and well skilled despite small statue. He had unique footwork but was effective both on outside and inside. Not all-tme great like others in this thread, but quite decent fighter from technical point.
     
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  14. DrederickTatum

    DrederickTatum We really outchere. Full Member

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    This is exactly what I'm not looking for.
     
  15. DrederickTatum

    DrederickTatum We really outchere. Full Member

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    I get what you're saying, but I do think it's reaching a bit. Do you really believe the skills they use exist, solely because of Joe Gans?