Best time to do your roadwork?

Notice how... shock horror.... a lot of sports players do boxing training in the off season to get fit? Boxing is cardio training, kickboxing is cardio training. You don't have to run as well, you're a boxer not a runner.

 

I get all the intervals, cross training all of that **** i love exercising and been around sports my whole life and had a 10 year military career, where by the way running is an every day thing... i know that there are other types of training routines can get you into shape but the bottom line is that for a top pro boxer running is the best tool of all of them and a top boxer that do not uses road work will not be at the top of his game..

once you acquire top conditioning you can cut down on the number of miles and times a week you run but you can not ignore your running completely and that's from talking with top trainers who have been around for decades training pros

i get my information first hand by talking to people like felix trinidad senior not from the internet

evander holyfield did a lot of running so i dont know where you get that **** from

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lol i have to provide the prove when you are the one claiming that running is not require to box at a top level and you havent been able to provide me with names of trainers or boxers that recommend not running at all..

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Again, what is your proof of this...? Please give an example of a champion boxer that stopped running and his boxing ability dropped dramatically.

 

Okay, you really are too dense to get it.

 

Just because people do something doesn't mean that they are experts at anything. They might be just like you know in that they accept what other guys were doing before them without thinking of or looking for a better way.
The norms for training in sport change all the time as the science advances and top trainers use their creativity and knowledge to get their athletes in better shape. All trainers are going to get some things right and some things wrong when it comes to training an athlete, as our understanding advances more trainers do more of the right things more often.
Not so much in boxing though, it's still full of people who seem to lack the brains and the modesty to accept that there might be a more efficient way to train. It's because of people with your mindset that boxing lags behind the rest of the sporting world when it comes to conditioning athletes. Being hardheaded is encouraged in boxing and it seems to translate to coaches as well unfortunately.
On another note being a 'Pro' boxer means nothing, Charlie Zelenoff is a pro boxer.

 

that's the point every top boxer runs as part of their training but you came in here claiming that you dont need running there are studies that show you dont need it but you havent provided proof of the studies or names of any top trainer that saids that because there arent any

also you claimed that i was wasting my time running while my opponents were doing something better but the bottom line all you are doing is making false bias statements that are all opinion... i rather listen to the people in the know and im not an expert but with over 30 amateur fights and many years in the gym with pro boxers and trainers im more qualify than you so keep believing what ever you want to believe since you probably dont know what fighting at a high level is and never will you're not a serious boxer if you were you wouldnt be talking all that nonsense


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Really? Here's a direct quote from Evanders strength and conditioning coach:

"The time-honoured -- but unfortunately ill-conceived -- practice of long, slow distance work as a conditioning regimen for boxers is what Evander learned from the training dinosaurs of his youth, and had continued with for years. When I was brought aboard his team, prior to his fight against Buster Douglas in 1990, Evander was in sad physical condition considering the specific demands of his sport. I immediately tested Evander's responses to three minutes of boxing specific total body work (see the 3-minute drill description below), which brought his heart rate above 180 bpm. He needed a full 7 or 8 minutes to recover back to 120 bpm after this single bout, analogous to one hard boxing round. What was worse, after doing five of the 3-minute drills with a one minute rest between, his heart rate remained above 150 between bouts. In short, he did not have the capacity to sustain a high performance level for even half of the duration of a professional fight. My responsibilities were limited to the physical conditioning component of Evander's training, which had to be integrated into his skills and sparring training. Boxers require not only agility, speed and strength in short, explosive bursts, but also a high level of anaerobic strength endurance in order to perform these bursts over and over for ten rounds or more. I designed Evander's training regimen and nutritional protocol to reflect these all-important elements. The road work ended promptly and completely."

 

LOL now you are funny boxing is lacking because they dont do it the way you feel is right... so tell me what are your credentials and you talk about modesty but you make some claims with no proof at all just your opinion that your way is better ...and boxers are considered as some of the best condition athletes in the world so i dont know why you are saying they lag behind their methods seem to be working

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As far as I'm aware there's never been a "Does a boxer need to run to win a fight?" study. If there was going to be some kind of study done in this area it would not be by any boxing related coaches. Boxing coaches know boxing and few know **** all about training outside of actual boxing. The only thing they really know about conditioning is "do your roadwork!" hence your ignorant mindset.

Not really, its common sense. If boxer A spent twice as much time doing actual boxing training while boxer B was doing his distance runs who do you think would be more likely to win in a match?

Are you really more qualified? I mean you're not a champion are you? By your logic I shouldn't give a damn about your opinion.

 

Think about it you fool, how would they test that a boxer doesn't need roadwork? Take a boxer who is already relatively fit and have him perform no roadwork while performing only boxing training for 10 weeks then measure his markers of fitness?
First of all nobody is stupid enough to waste their time with that study because it doesn't take a genius to realise that a boxer isn't going to lose boxing fitness by doing boxing fitness

 

I'm done here two guys that have never stepped into the ring are trying to convince me that they dont need to run as part of their training in boxing. Wish we could get into the ring and i will knock both of you guys out with your training methods that are laughable. Go to a gym any boxing gym and tell your story to the trainer they are going to laugh at your stupid asses.

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I'm a world champion pro, I got there by having naturally excellent speed, reflexes, strength and I also spent hours upon hours perfecting my boxing skills in the gym and working to exhaustion while hitting the bags and pads. I also walked for 4 hours every morning.
Therefore my credentials are top notch, everybody should walk for 4 hours every morning if they want to get fit for boxing and be a champ. It worked for me so ignore all that bull**** scientific research, walking is all you need.


P.s. You are an absolute ******, I hope this makes you realise what you sound like :good

 

Go tell your story to Evander and Pernell :good