Best trainer in world boxing??

Don't forget Pacquiao was already a 2 weight world champ before he went to Roach

Nacho is Numero Uno :good

 

Billy Nelson :yep

 

He did make some very deceptive changes to Pacquiao's game though, introducing feinting being one, something you'll see just about no other trainers doing these days.

Nacho and Roach are neck and neck for me, I believe Nacho to be a bit too one dimensional and set in his ways in terms of his teaching though, you heard it on 24/7 I take it, his fighters have to do this a certain way, they have to do that a certain way, it doesn't really vary per individual(Angulo being the exception rather than the rule).

 

agreed, wasn't trying to take anything away from Roach there, he's added a few more strings to his bow.

Agree about Nacho, likes thing done his way, even down to his stance.

be interesting to see what fighters they had and worked with from scratch. Nacho has had Both Marquez and Ricardo Lopez, erm who else :think

 

I know man, I was just saying that even though Pac's improvement is overstated, it shouldn't be understated, if you catch my drift?:yep:blood

Didn't Nacho have Mares but basically ****ed him off because he signed for the Espinoza's? I'm certain that I've heard that somewhere before, that it had something to do with the fact that Izzy Vazquez was also signed to them.

 

yea Mares started with with Nacho, and that's probably why he left. Nacho been training fighters over 50 years, crazy.

yea i get your drift with Pacquiao, i was kind of making the same point:thumbsup

 

I don't think there is a #1, There's a fair few who are doing fantastic work with certain fighters.

Nacho and Freddie are obviously two of the elite trainers.

 

There isn't a best every trainer has their own speciality but IMO they are...

Roach
Nacho
Robert Garcia
Jimmy Tibbs
Manny Steward

 

Floyd Joy Mayweather sr.....In his own head.

 

Montiel SR is pretty good as is Rudy Perez.

 

Jimmy and Mark Tibbs

 

Don't forget Pac was a raggedy ass Flyweight beast who had some serious deficiencies. He was gonna' need help as he lost his big size advantages. And against Sasakul he was, let's be honest, pretty lucky.

Roach is the man IMO :good

It's no accident he learned his trade from one of the ATG Boxing trainer Eddie Futch.

 

he did, but he wasn't a prospect coming through either, not taking anything away from Roach, like i said he's added alot more to his game

 

Ricardo López - four time champion (hall of fame member)
Juan Manuel Márquez - three division champion
Rafael Márquez - two division champion
Daniel Zaragoza - four time champion (hall of fame member)
Humberto González - four time champion (hall of fame member)
Victor Rabanales - bantamweight champion
Oscar De La Hoya - six division champion
Jorge Arce - four time champion
Guty Espadas - flyweight champion
Guty Espadas, Jr. - featherweight champion
Alfredo Angulo - jr middleweight prospect
Enrique Sánchez - bantamweight champion
Gilberto Román - two time champion (with 11 title defenses)
Jhonny González - two division champion
Melchor Cob Castro - two time champion
Rodolfo López - featherweight champion
Alejandro Barrera - jr middleweight prospect
Abner Mares - bantamweight champion
Vicente Escobedo - former title challenger
Juan Carlos Salgado - two time champion
Jorge Paez - two time champion