Stonehands. Hamed had boxing ability in him, no question. Before he hooked up with Steward he was very free flowing with his punches, and was unpredictable. On his toes, coming from all angles, and harder to catch with a flush shot. I do agree to a certain extent with you. Before the Barrera fight, Hamed had around five fights under the guidance of Steward and Saurez, so suddenly becoming what he once was 3-4 years before on a technical level during the Barrera fight simply aint possible. Which ties in with your "Hamed wasn't going to outbox Barrera". He had became accustomed to bad habits. Loading up more, and becoming less fluent from the waist up. Loading up with punches against Barrera wasn't the way to get himself back into the fight. Steward should have had a plan B. I'll tell you something, Steward never advised Hamed to use the jab and put punches together. Hamed needed to lay his gloves on Barrera to get get back into the fight, thus win rounds. The Hamed corner was a strange one. I will concede that Steward as joint head trainer with Saurez wasn't going to work. He probably never quite had the input with Hamed he would have liked. One trainer giving advice between rounds, then the other stepping through the ropes the next round. Continuity required.
Stonehads. I'm not sure Steward has ever been a co-trainer apart from with Hamed. Any other times you can recall?.
Thanks for that. Also, I consider Freddie Roach and Nacho Beristain to be the 2 best trainers in boxing at the moment. Roach for example has made Pacquaio what he is today. I think he will in time become near as great as Futch. I can't wait for the Pacquaio-Marquez rematch to come off, the 2 best trainers facing off, should be really good. Also I've never heard of Thel Torrance, how is he as a trainer?
Gil Clancy had this role as a member of the De La Hoya camp. It was Clancy who recommended Steward to De La Hoya and his team to become head trainer after the disputed win over Whitaker. After Steward was sacked, which is a long story, Clancy then became an advisor. He was drafted into camp a week before De La Hoya fought Rivera in Atlantic City. As you probably know, Clancy came out of retirement to become an advisor for De La Hoya. Around 2-3 weeks before De La Hoya was scheduled to fight, Clancy would head to Big Bear for some fine tuning. However, he wasn't the head trainer. Alcazar, who Clancy rated as a trainer, had the daily duties and it was him who stepped between the ropes at the end of every round to give De La Hoya advice, with Clancy offering his knowledge when needed.
Teddy Atlas is quite possibly the most overrated trainer of all-time. He doesn't belong in the same stratosphere as a truly great trainer like Eddie Futch, or Nacho Bernstein. It all depends on chemistry. Some fighters would work better with Manny Steward. Others with Angelo Dundee.
He was co-trainer for W. Klitschko. Steward came in later to the Taylor camp. Ozell actually trained Jermain with conditioning and such and Steward did strategy and was the chief second. He learned that the hard way with Hamed.
Torrence trains Rahman and he also trained Wayne McCullough, at least until he left before the Morales fight after a woman started running the camp with Wayne's unfortunate consent. He also trained Audley Harrison. Any protege of Futch must be half decent.
