Best trainers of all time?

It recently occurred to me that we've had a lot of lists and polls over the last 12-15 since I've been on internet boxing sites, but I don't recall many threads about trainers. Now even though I've been in these sites for what seems like forever, I'm the first to admit I'm far from a boxing expert.

So how would you rank these trainers and why and who should be added onto this list?


Angelo Dundee - notable for training Ali and SRL - Arguably two top 10
ATG's

Jack Blackburn - trained Joe Louis, an ATG

Jack "Doc" Kearns - trained Jack Dempsey

Ray Arcel - Trained Duran up to the "No mas" fight, also trained Benny
Leonard, Tony Zale

Eddie Futch - Trained Holmes, Frazier, Norton, Bowe, Michael Spinks,
Alexis Arguello among others

Freddie Roach - Trained Pac, and several others including Miguel Cotto

voted the trainer of the year by the Boxing
Writers Association of America in 2003, 2006, 2008,
2009,2010 and 2013 current fighters including

Mayweather's Floyd Sr and Roger - Current and/or past trainers of Floyd
Mayweather

Emanuel Stewart - Trained Tommy Hearns, Lennox Lewis, Wlad
Klitschko trained 41 champions altogether.

 

Just to clarify I wasn't ranking them, they were randomly selected. I was hoping other posters would rank and/or add names to the list.

Were I to rank them it would be something like this.

Ray Arcel - two top 10 ATG greats

Dundee - also two (or close to it) ATG's

Futch - the king of the heavweights

Steward - close behind him

Roach - accolades galore, and Pac and Cotto are currently among the best

Blackburn, - only had one notable fighter but he may have been the best heavyweight of all time, no worse than second.

Mayweather(s) - I think teaching defense is harder to do than train someone who is naturally offensive

Kearns - Dempey is a legend, who many consider the best they've seen according to the AP poll of 1950

Would probably add Cus D'Amato and put him behind or maybe above Roach.

 

As mentioned the placement was random. it was simply in the order of who I thought about and when. But I do disagree that Dundee he didn't influence Ali (especially in the first Liston fight when Ali fought at least part of a round blind) and SRL by how they ended their rounds in flurries trying to influence the judges, and had it not been for Dundee loosening the ropes in Zaire who knows how that fight would have unfolded. That's over and above any training techniques he may have taught.

 

Great suggestions :good