Best versions of ATG's what Tokyo Bummy Douglas could beat???

Joe Louis - 1950/51 version.
Mike Tyson anytime after 1991.
Larry Holmes - 1985 and beyond.

 

This Douglas may beat a Prime Joe Louis. Controversial I know but he has the jab, movement, speed of Billy Conn while being a SHW with the reach and power to match it.

This Douglas could beat allot of All Time Greats, the package he had that night was a sensational one. I certainly see him easily beating anyone pre-Louis

 

Probably any version of Foreman, monocled or un-monocled, other than the absolute Peak George of '73/'74.

How do you like them apples, Hook?

 

That Buster was an absolute monster. He was in extraordinary shape, he was focused, he was letting his hands go and he was willing himself through shots that he would not have taken 3 years prior. This guy beats the best version of several atgs...

Johnson
Dempsey
Walcott
Charles
Marciano
Patterson
Liston

...not to mention the faded version of many more...

 

Then again....'bummy' douglas just about beat an unmotivated, out of shape Tyson

 

I'd say Holmes of '73-'77 & '82 onwards loses to Tokyo Douglas.

 

Dammit Foreman Hook you just beat me to this lol :twisted::fire

 

I was going to mention Dempsey & Liston, then I saw your list, & agree with it wholly. :good

 

Buster looked great against a out of shape flat footed drained lethargic Tyson so people think "he could have beat any fighter that night" Nope dont buy it.

 

I agree that Tyson was lethargic and flatfooted but if you watch the fight one more time and focus more on Douglas, you'll notice things that many HWs would have trouble dealing with. Pay close attention to his length, work rate, hand speed and toughness. These are attributes that transcend eras and that is why I posted what I did...

 

I wont argue with that buddy. Buster looked amazing. I just think quite a few Heavys would have tore into tyson that night

 

How was Tyson 'drained' People make too many excuses for this loss, Tyson wasn't at his 100% best or on top of his game but he was still very near to prime

The thing that made Tyson look bad was Douglas defence movement, speed, countering and jab. No he wasn't at his best and if he was at his best maybe he wins, MAYBE

 

He certainly was in his prime. By all accounts ive heard his training was nowhere near up to par though. I'm not a Tyson fanboy either I think hes overrated. I just dont by the whole Buster was the GOAT that night saying. Quite a few heavyweights would have beat him that night. Tyson was sluggish, his legs looked weak, was standing straight up too often. Not using his jab nearly enough as he had in the past. Been about 5 years since ive watched it an Ill check it out again.

 

tyson was weight drained his weight was 248 pounds on the dot 2 weeks before fighting james douglas // he used saunas to dehydrate water weight and starving himself to lose fat weight // why deny it