Feinting him into throwing a right hand and countering with a left would not work imo, Floyd rolls his shoulder when he feels contact. The last part i kinda agree with though, its quite clear he bends to his left so getting off the shoulder and throwing the left hook is essential, if you stay infront him you want get that punch off because you need him to bend into thus meaning you HAVE! to be off the shoulder to land it, also agree about the "Shoot a left cross at his heart or at the cusp of his left deltoid" sounds a bit specific but i know exactly what your trying to say.
No he doesn't. Floyd keeps his right tucked tight against his right elbow tight against his body. His left is pressed against his midsection. He turns in sharply in profile. Roger keeps his left low, but not tucked, and his right is below his chin. He moves his hands in a rhythm and tends to be more square. He occasionally shells up, but doesn't roll nearly as often or effectively as Floyd does. There is only the vaguest of resemblance in their stance and they apply it in very different ways. And, as mentioned, what works for one Sugar does not necessarily work for the other.
I always think that when floyds bends over to the right, someone is going to catch him with a hook or uppercut... SN 40 PROFESSIONALS before the TS thought they had the plan to be mayweather's style that is "simple to crack" they all added a loss to their record. He will adjust for any opponent.
A left cross is only available for left handed fighters. Otherwise it's just a jab. And while jabbing is a good idea, jabbing without malicious intent, just to create a distraction, is a good way to ensure that you end up eating a lot of counter right hands. And Floyd tends to turn so much in profile that it's hard to put a left hand on any part of him other than the lead arm/shoulder because anything else requires a dangerous reach in, unless you've already managed to work your way in close.
Well tbh i was not sure what he meant when he said that but i assumed he was talking about a upjab with the left hand. No its not,not when you jab at the right times, committing to the jab leaves too much weight on your front foot and too close the opponent to follow up, when against Mayweather you have to keep it at long range to have success when he goes into his shell. Thats why the left upjab is effective because it comes from undeneath where there is no protection, DLH caught him with this shot to.
Shane may just have to do a Marciano on Floyd. Hit him anywhere and everywhere, and hit him hard. It worked for the Rock against some very skilled fighters.
all defenses can be beat , its not the style its who employs it Getting to mayweather is a mystery as of now
people dont get it the reason why mayweather is so good at not getting hit is because he applies all types of defense, he shoulder rollls, full guards, half guards, bobs and weave, he does what ever he has to.
I think Judah thought he was doing something legal, the amount of times he was getting hit he probably thought he was fighting 5 guys. Besides if you try to take away Mayweather's sholder roll hell move to something else, He didn't become the best technical fighter alive by being one dimensional.
I actually think the upjab is a worse choice. The right glove and should can easily protect the lower portion of the face while shelled up. A jab at the top of the head can clear the shoulder though and for Mayweather to lift his right to block it which makes it unavailable for counterpunching. That said, I still believe that unless a fighter is significantly faster than Mayweather, or has a significant reach advantage, and Shane has neither, throwing jabs as merely a distraction will ultimately get you figured out and countered. Floyd's footspeed and right hand are both fast enough to close and counter on even a rangy jab, especially as he likes to throw that punch while falling in and clinch immediately after.
Yea, I agree. Trying to find one solution is pointless. You've got to go in there willing to change up your plan when it stops working. That's part of the reason that Nazim is so important in this fight. His ability to spot openings and make changes on the fly between rounds, and Shane's ability to listen to his advice, will have a huge effect on how this fight plays out.
Its not central to the plan i was advocating but its just a part of a game plan that i think would be effective sporadically. It can be stopped with the right hand to a degree but you must throw it at the right times, when the opponent is on his heels moving out, DLH caught him clean with it as to do did Hatton, although you could argue Hatton mighta stepped on his feet. I agree about the reach thing. I dont think Shane can win the fight anyway TBH,hes is too old for me. I disagree with the last point though,whilst Mosley has a pitiful jab and it most likely wont be a factor in this fight i think an educated jab wont get timed repeatedly against anyone. A great jab means getting your feet there and snapping it,not reaching with it and leaving it out there, not jabbing in the same rhythm, only lazy,slow and reaching jabs get countered consistently.
I agree, Man Sr just stood there and took a beating. Didn't anybody ever tell him, to hold? You guys are missing th most obvious answer to the question. The best way to negate the shoulder roll is not to fight floyd!