Best way to negate Mayweather's shoulder roll is

No he doesn't. Floyd keeps his right tucked tight against his right elbow tight against his body. His left is pressed against his midsection. He turns in sharply in profile. Roger keeps his left low, but not tucked, and his right is below his chin. He moves his hands in a rhythm and tends to be more square. He occasionally shells up, but doesn't roll nearly as often or effectively as Floyd does. There is only the vaguest of resemblance in their stance and they apply it in very different ways. And, as mentioned, what works for one Sugar does not necessarily work for the other.

 

I always think that when floyds bends over to the right, someone is going to catch him with a hook or uppercut...

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40 PROFESSIONALS before the TS thought they had the plan to be mayweather's style that is "simple to crack"
they all added a loss to their record. He will adjust for any opponent.

 

A left cross is only available for left handed fighters. Otherwise it's just a jab. And while jabbing is a good idea, jabbing without malicious intent, just to create a distraction, is a good way to ensure that you end up eating a lot of counter right hands. And Floyd tends to turn so much in profile that it's hard to put a left hand on any part of him other than the lead arm/shoulder because anything else requires a dangerous reach in, unless you've already managed to work your way in close.

 

Shane may just have to do a Marciano on Floyd. Hit him anywhere and everywhere, and hit him hard. It worked for the Rock against some very skilled fighters.

 

all defenses can be beat , its not the style its who employs it

Getting to mayweather is a mystery as of now

 

people dont get it

the reason why mayweather is so good at not getting hit is because he applies all types of defense, he shoulder rollls, full guards, half guards, bobs and weave, he does what ever he has to.

 

I think Judah thought he was doing something legal, the amount of times he was getting hit he probably thought he was fighting 5 guys.

Besides if you try to take away Mayweather's sholder roll hell move to something else, He didn't become the best technical fighter alive by being one dimensional.

 

I actually think the upjab is a worse choice. The right glove and should can easily protect the lower portion of the face while shelled up. A jab at the top of the head can clear the shoulder though and for Mayweather to lift his right to block it which makes it unavailable for counterpunching.

That said, I still believe that unless a fighter is significantly faster than Mayweather, or has a significant reach advantage, and Shane has neither, throwing jabs as merely a distraction will ultimately get you figured out and countered. Floyd's footspeed and right hand are both fast enough to close and counter on even a rangy jab, especially as he likes to throw that punch while falling in and clinch immediately after.

 

Yea, I agree. Trying to find one solution is pointless. You've got to go in there willing to change up your plan when it stops working. That's part of the reason that Nazim is so important in this fight. His ability to spot openings and make changes on the fly between rounds, and Shane's ability to listen to his advice, will have a huge effect on how this fight plays out.

 

a shotgun

 

Shane should take a page from Roberto Duran first fight with SRL

 

I agree, Man Sr just stood there and took a beating. Didn't anybody ever tell him, to hold?

You guys are missing th most obvious answer to the question. The best way to negate the shoulder roll is not to fight floyd!