Damn those idiots that live in reality and don't make **** up in a vain attempt to look like they have a clue! DAMN THEM ALL! In all seriousness, Ylem... shut the **** up. You have no clue what it takes to be an athlete, let alone train one. Your just going to get someone injured one day with your idiotic advice. OP, ignore this ****wit, listen to everyone else apart from Ylem. Guys giving advice on this board have qualifications in olympic lifting, personal training, strength training, fitness instructing and a few other qualifications. Ylem has read a few articles on the Internet and thinks he knows more than us all combined. He's just an idiot with idiotic theories and facts he makes up in his head. As an example he thinks lifting an orange will improve strength, along with lifting 1lb dumbells for 50 reps at a time. He's an ignorant moron.
**** you plank, ive boxed for years, I just grown to like MMA, K1 etc. Still love boxing. Starting strength is a term........gear to how much you lift in a one rep maximum. This is different to someone lifting it 8 times in a row. George Foreman and Mike Tyson both big punchers but for different reasons. Foreman starting/ static strength was one of the greatest in heavyweight history, who ever pushed him around? His strength-speed was **** though which is what Mike Tyson had in abundance. Tyson though could be pushed about far more.
What are you on about? Starting Stength is a book written by Mark Rippetoe. It's a strength routine for beginners, nothing at all to do with boxers or whatever you're going on about.
Fair enough, but whilst i want to function at a high level or see where i can get to, i also want to look the part. I understand your not going to be 10 out of 10 for everything, but i just want to be the best all round athlete that i personally can be. I realized through training that its very difficult to do everything so wondered how a generic plan would look if one were to gain weight/ size along with training in combat.
Ok Virus, forget me for one second then. Let get a pro fighter like say Rampage Jackson or Chad Dawson.....both men come to you and he listen we want to bulk up to our max that our genetics will help. We want to be bigger, stronger, faster and have better endurance. We know it going to take time but this is our goal. How would you give advice on how to go about this WHILST training in there respective sports.
You can "look the part" at your current weight or lower. If you don't look the part at 195lb you won't look the part at 250lb. Why can't you function properly at your current weight or lower? So you want to waste time gaining weight? More weight does not always equate to better performance. My point is you're trying to gain weight to look good, that's fine, but say that. If you was an athlete of any kind you wouldn't just want to add weight like you do unless you have a damn good reason, which you don't. Like a few have said Starting Strength is a good base to start from. If you truely are an athlete and want to gain weight along with performance search for Westside for Skinny *******s 4. These guys have all done WS4SB - [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekZYPGxQbno&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
Thanks fella, those guys look incredible they really. I wish guys like Arreola, Peter, Toney would follow these types of training protocols.
Il look it up, ive seen them before....i remember reading Dave Tate on T-Nation on about looking the part but also performing to high levels. 3 deals with improving performance whilst gaining weight then il look it up. What sources on the internet do you think are best for researching training etc? Westside T-Nation Bodybuilding.com
T-Nation Joe Defrancoe's website - best athlete coach there is. EliteFTS Westside Crossfit, now and again for a random conditioning workout. The main ones I check. Bodybuilding.com is shite, they publish anyones articles even if they're complete bull****.
http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/hardcore.html ^^ an experiment in mass gaining without sacrificing athletic performance. However, in your case, to 'look the part', it might be best to focus on getting lean rather than gaining any more mass.
Chris Shugart John Berardi Alwyn Cosgrove Eric Cressey Joe Defranco Clay Hyght Dan John Ian King Ross Enamait Mike Robertson Louie Simmons Dave Tate Christian Thibaudeau Chad Waterbury Good mix of strength coaches, bodybuilders, powerlifters and nutritionists.