Beterbiev (the real Ivan Drago) knocks Stevenson out

Yesterday Beterbiev showed skill and patience, but they desperately need to get him more fights and keep him active before upping his competition too much. He needs a Pascal or Joe Smith Jr. level opponent before challenging Barrera or Gvozdyk. For now he isn't close to being ready to challenge Stevenson.

 

He is a Chechen Muslim. Meaning somewhere along the line of history his ancestors were given the choice of beheading or converting, and they chose to live as Muslims.

 

No he's not.

 

There is a reason old Stevenson (who should making a legacy) is fighting the level of competition he is. Damage control... Milk the career. Beterbiev outboxes & KOs him. I maintain that opinion...

 

It's Artur, not Arthur, and he looks Caucasian to me, not Turkic.

 

You are wrong, because True Islam doesn't teach that you should or must force people to convert to their religion, but only teaches to leave other people of other faiths alone and let them belîeve what they want to believe and what life they want to live.

"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"

"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2:193)"

Let us look at Noble Verses 15:2-3 "Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them)."

Let us look at Noble Verses 10:99-100 "If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed, all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe! No soul can believe, except by the will of God, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand."

Let us look at Noble Verse 18:29 "Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on!"

But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things). (The Noble Quran, 8:61)"

"If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 5:28)"

"God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (The Noble Quran, 60:8)"

"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for God. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrongdoers. (The Noble Quran 2:193)"

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"

"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)"

"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"

"If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Noble Quran, 10:99)"

Noble Verse 5:32 "...if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people..." In this Noble Verse we clearly see that Allah Almighty honors all the innocent souls that He created. Killing any innocent soul is so hated by Allah Almighty that He considers it as a crime against all of Mankind.

Let us look at Noble Verse 8:61 "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things)." In this Noble Verse, we clearly see Allah Almighty ordering us, the Muslims, to incline toward peace when the enemy inclines toward peace. This proves that Islam is not a religion for wars, but for peace.

"Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. (The Noble Quran, 109:1-6)"

Noble Verses, we clearly see that Allah Almighty orders the Muslims to be forgiving to the enemies and to make peace and peace making their top priority. It is part of the Muslim's morals to be a peaceful person.

But just like in every faith and way of life you have crazy people that believe what they want to believe and think that it's OK to force people to convert to their way of living in this world, but we just have to keep trying to stop them or educate people they are trying to brain wash and try to keep us safe because they don't care about me or you, they will kill anyone who doesn't agree with what they teach Muslims or Christains White or Black or Brown, Gay or strait, Atheist or Agnostic. They don't care they want us all gone, we have to stay united and spread peace and love and keep fighting them until they are all gone.

As'salamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh", which means in English "May GOD's peace, mercy and blessings be upon you."

 

Asalaam bro. Do you really an American boxing forum is the place to give dawah to a group of jahiloon?

 

Oh, yes it does. And not only this, your islam also says that if someone leaves islam, he deserves to be killed.

Nice religion this one of yours. Pure **** that should be banned in every decent country in this world.

 

Beterbiev didn't look like beterbiev last night. in a pro and con way.
Pro: he looked more controlled then ever, made few if any mistakes he threw 750 jabs and showed he can carry his power late (althought he went 12 rounds at a pace he could choose on his own in comparison to the bhop kovalev fight) the con was and maybe this is just because he wanted to get rounds in, he ddn't take out a boxer that didn't want to be there faster and the fight was boring and maybe he will be a boring fighter.

I don't see the faults like certain admins here say "he loses to kovalev in 2, he loses to the nail in 4" I see those fights as winnable for anyone but beterbiev is likely to be the betting favourite

 

It wasn't a bad performance by Beterbiev given his recent inactivity.

I said that Koelling was tough and would be hard to KO and so it proved.

 

As'salamu Alaikum
I was just educating Him, on what he posted I don't see you questioning his raciest post about Islam and Muslims and just assuming just because this boxer is Muslim that this thread is about doesn't give him that right to trash Islam because they are killing us to not just them, but all of us.

Just because Beterbiev is Muslim doesn't mean his family was forced into Islam just Like Mohammad Ali and Joshua wasn't forced into Islam.

I am not in here to start any trouble just here to talk boxing that's all.

 

Ma Salaam
Inbox me akhi

 

6 of 12 victories for Beterbiev were over guys who had never been stopped and of the other 6, one of them was a former world champ and the others were all durable journeymen known for giving rounds.

But after Saturday some claim his power is overrated. Typical prisoners of the moment.

 

Yes, Beterbiev would knock Stevenson out, no doubt about it!!!

 

He's NOT Slavic, he's Chechnyan.