Beterbiev v all of Larry Holmes opponents how would he have fared?

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beterbiev vs. Butterbean.

    It sells itself.
     
  2. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed! I like Bivol if he fights Beterbiev, who would you favor in that one mr. djanders?
     
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  3. Glass City Cobra

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    Beterbiev would end up in the 1st row if Whyte landed flush, and would look like a Mortal Kombat character after a fight.

    Whyte is not a great or highly skilled heavyweight by any stretch of the imagination, and Beterbiev is better p4p, but if you took the two of them as is right now it would be no contest. If nothing else, Whyte is huge, brave, and hits like a truck.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

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    Tim Witherspoon was never offered a big payday from Don king in his Life. In fact he was paid LESS than Frank Bruno despite being the defending champ which later led to a lawsuit against DK productions…. Don king never wanted Tim Witherspoon to fight Tyson because he didn’t like spoons style. Tim Witherspoon was pissed when Tony tubbs pulled out of the rematch and smith was inserted in his place for less money and Tim even threatened to pull out. Tim has repeated over and over in interviews that he wanted to sever his ties with king and that losing the smith fight was what he perceived as his best way out….there’s a little more to boxing than just looking at results on paper. Sometimes there’s a story behind some of these fights
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    You’ve failed to direct me to the analogous circumstances that I requested.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    The answer to this specific case was in my response. Asking me to Cite a different scenario under a totally different circumstances is no rebuttal
     
  7. NoNeck

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    Tyson wasn't the only guy to bite.

    Ike wasn't the only guy to blow a career in the pen.

    Liston wasn't the only guy with mob ties.

    Morrison wasn't even the only guy fighting with HIV.

    Witherspoon is the only guy ever who is alleged to have thrown a fight due to a conflict with a promoter via getting his teeth knocked out in round one with a career high payday and unification lined up afterward. Fanboyism.
     
  8. Glass City Cobra

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    I guess Smith was a fanboy too. He said that Witherspoon had no motivation.
     
  9. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Your posting style on here suggests that you're completely unfamiliar with the concept of humility and how it can benefit one's reputation, so you would post that.
     
  10. Glass City Cobra

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    Thank you Dr. Phil. I forgot that you're the paragon of humility. After all, you've made many down to Earth humble observations such as claiming people who wear headgear are weaklings.

    None of this changes the fact Witherspoon had zero motivation in his rematch with Smith, something Smith himself acknowledged. But I guess the fighters don't know what they're talking about. We should defer to the armchair psychologist who thinks a 5'11 175 pound fighter could dominate an era full of athletic 6'3 220+ boxers.
     
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  11. NoNeck

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    Tim's career was an exercise in zero motivation, like your posts are an exercise in lying.
     
  12. Glass City Cobra

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    Zero motivation won him 2 championships.

    Show me a single post I made where I lied.
     
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  13. mr. magoo

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    Go with whatever assumptions you want then but know that’s all they are. In the 1980s Tim Witherspoon was getting painfully low pay checks which by the time tax, promoter fees, etc were all deducted he was practically fighting world class fighters for FREE ! He knew the Tyson fight either wasn’t going to happen or that he was going to get paid shlt for taking a beating. He said he wanted to be done with king and that he basically threw the fight. Call him a liar if you want… call me a fan boy…. Either way you’re wrong and don’t know anything
     
  14. NoNeck

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    Poor guy had to pay taxes.