Beterbiev v all of Larry Holmes opponents how would he have fared?

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    You’re wrong. He is enormous and has big power and great technique. I was at the fight.
     
  2. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Lewis was bigger and stronger than Bowe in the pros.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    lol! Bowe was far bigger in the pros than he was in the amateurs.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    5 ft 11 in
    Reach 73 in
     
  5. NoNeck

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    And Lewis was still bigger and stronger.
     
  6. NoNeck

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    Like I said, I was at the fight. Smith’s success is based on being an oversized light heavyweight. He looked like a skinny guy next to Beterbiev. Beterbiev is big.
     
  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Big compared to Holmes opposition?
     
  8. NoNeck

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    I think he’s stronger and has more power than the majority of the guys who Holmes defended against. If he bulked slightly and didn’t have to make weight, it would be even more in his favor.

    On top of that, he has a chin, great punch placement and less is more ring generalship. He would’ve picked up a belt if he fought in the early 80s heavyweight pool.
     
  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Shavers had far more power than Beterbiev has, and had a reach that was 6 inches longer than Beterbiev`s.
     
  10. NoNeck

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    This has nothing to do with what I said.
     
  11. Glass City Cobra

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    Ams results don't mean anything.

    Tubbs lost to Page 6x in the amateurs and beat him in the pros.

    Size:

    Ocasio: 5'11 207
    Evangelista: 6'1 208
    Ledoux: 6'1 226
    Rodriguez: 6'1 209
    Frank: 6'2 211

    Beterbiev: 5'11 175

    Other than 2 years, Beterbiev spent his entire amateur career at around 178. He debuted at 28 years old, which means as a fully grown man he was 5'11 and 175 lbs. His reach isn't very big either at 73'.

    The only guy the same height as Beterbiev is Ocaiso, and even he's a full 30 lbs heavier with a slightly longer reach. Ocasio was 205 lbs as a 22 year old pro. Frank debuted at 210 lbs.

    In what universe is Beterbiev close to the same size as these fighters? Nearly every single one of them is taller, rangier, and 30-40 lbs heavier. It's pure speculation to assume Beterbiev could gain that much weight and still be just as effective since he never weighed remotely close to 205+ as an amateur or pro.
     
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  12. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King Full Member

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    Imagine being so dumb Mark Ant made a valid response that went right over your head.

    His point was that Shavers had even more power than Beterbiev and was naturally larger but couldn't grab a belt in the 80's. You claimed Beterbiev would do well due to his power, punch placement, etc despite lacking size. If Shavers couldn't Beterbiev isn't winning anything.
     
  13. NoNeck

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    I’d be surprised if Beterbiev failed to brutally knock Shavers out.
     
  14. NoNeck

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    You seem to employ the same style of logic that antivax people do when they go scouring the data to find someone who died of COVID despite being vaccinated.

    Beterbiev could probably step on a scale today and it would show 205-210 while being built like a tank.

    Quoting his weight at 175 says something unfavorable about you as a person.
     
  15. Glass City Cobra

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    I'd be surprised if I didn't lose brain cells talking to you.

    This is moneytheman levels of idiocy.
     
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