Beterbiev vs Marciano

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  1. Maxcassidy86

    Maxcassidy86 Member Full Member

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    Ridiculous match up or genuinely interesting fantasy fight?
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Fun while it lasts.
     
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  3. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    I like Beterbiev but lets not go over board Marciano hits way too hard and is too tough.
     
  4. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. Turnip mk3

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    Good fight for a while action !! Until about round 5 when Beterbiev gets sparked out by a short right
     
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  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marciano would KO Callum Smith cold with a one punch knockout, I will just say that….
     
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  7. mcvey

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    Beterbiev has not done enough to convince me he beats Walcott,Charles ,or Moore.
     
  8. AngryBirds

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    I’m pretty sure Marciano KO’s Beterbiev in round 1. The weight/physical strength difference is simply too much for Beterbiev to have any hope of survival much less winning.
     
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  9. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev enters the ring roughly as heavy as Marciano. There isn't a weight difference here.
     
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  10. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Certain guys fit perfectly in their division, Roberto Duran was perfect at 135lbs but was still great and 147 and 154 and fought well against Hagler at 160.

    Bob Foster was great at 175lbs, Monzon perfect at 160. Marvin Hagler was 160 all his career.

    Beterbiev is in perfect shape and has everything at 175 and that is where he should stay.

    Marciano had to train down to get to 188lbs and normally would be about 220, while still training but not in the spartan mode.

    Beterbiev is tough but Marciano could be a permanently damaging fight and the era had some experienced masters Moore, Charles, Johnson, Walcott etc. before you could make it there.

    If Beterbiev gets past Bivol he will cement his legacy in the 175lb division and that is where he should stay, that's his home.
     
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  11. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    No it isn't. They're literally the same size.
     
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  12. Fergy

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    No, it's a good fight for a few rounds but it's ending with Marciano smashing him.
     
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  13. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Beterbiev hurts guys with his punches. He is a hard puncher and stops guys. He needs more than 2 knockdows to end it though.

    Marciano Knocked guys out. He hits someone like Walcott with one, and that is more than enough.

    There should have no doubt about which guy is the greater puncher.

    Beterbiev is so little tested too, he is not facing experienced slippery crafty movers with 100 pro fights, he is facing guys that are behind a high guard against the ropes, and he is hitting them.
     
  14. It's Ovah

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    It's been done many times before, and no it isn't a ridiculous matchup. Both men would enter the ring at roughly the same weight with the same dimensions. It then comes down to styles, skills, experience, physical attributes and various intangibles. Both men are unbeaten and brutal KO punchers. Rocky has the experience and the proven capability to beat some of the best fighters of his generation, while Beterbiev has looked much more dominant but against a smaller and less impressive roster of fighters.

    They both have underrated skillsets; I'd give the edge slightly to Beterbiev here but it's hard to measure skill in a vacuum. Power-wise I find it hard to separate them. Rocky would launch into his shots with all his bodymass which obviously gave him massive wrecking ball power, but Beteriev can hurt fighters with short glancing blows that don't look like they have anything in them, and do so in rapid combinations without seeming to expend much energy. I'd say he probably has the more naturally heavy hands, but Rocky's bobbing and weaving style allows him to sell out on his shots more.

    It's obviously in resume that Beterbiev gets let down. He really only has Gvozdyk as a really top class name, with a bunch of tough but lower level guys making up the next rung down. Realistically Beterbiev would need to KO Bivol and then maybe beat a decent CW like Opetaia or even Briedis to have a solid argument here but it's probably a losing battle since it's hard to trump KOs over the likes of Moore, Walcott, Charles and Louis.
     
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