Beterbiev VS prime RJJ @ LHW

I disagree. Just compare Gvozdyk vs Chilemba to Bivol vs Chilemba. Bivol is better at everything except the power department. Gvozdyk is simply just bigger.

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I can't wait when Beterbiev obliterates Yarde. Everybody will claim he's unbeatable and he cannot be stopped. Then Bivol will come along and outbox him over 12. It will be in the top 5 best boxing wins of this entire decade and It will be glorious. Bivol will prove everyone wrong

 

Have you watched those videos? You know who Gvozdyk is and who Bivol is right? If you can’t see from that how superior Gvozdyk is in every facet of boxing then what can I say to you?
You have some fantasy version of Bivol in your mind. He’s very good and the Canelo win was very impressive, but keep the bigger picture in mind. Gvozdyk would beat Bivol 10 times out of 10, never mind Beterbiev.

 

What is Gvozdyk better at besides power and being bigger ? Give me a detailed explanation. Because i can clearly see who's faster, who has more successful feints, who has quicker feet, who has better upperbody movement and head movement, who has better punch selection, and who can time a counterpunch better

Gvozdyk might have a better jab ?

I am no hater and i will give Beterbiev all props if he beats Bivol, but i favor Bivol. Just straight up favor him to beat Beterbiev clearly in a very hard fight that brings out the best of both men.

Yeah he proved me wrong, destroyed Joe Smith. But i favored Beterbiev and i high key just wanted Smith to bring the belts back home and hoped he could land a bomb. But Bivol is in a different league and his IQ is too good man

 

Beterbiev's recovery is excellent too: on the two occasions he's been dropped he's got up to stop his opponent 1-2 rounds later. This also suggests that he doesn't lose confidence from getting knocked down. And he's not been stopped in 318 fights amateur and pro.

Jones's feet also were not as fast as Haye's according to John Ruiz and I don't think Haye's feet were as fast as a 20-something Usyk's, who Beterbiev had no problem finding.

 

Wow 24 of 35 people have picked Beterbiev to win this. This is a classic prisoners of the moment situation. Beterbiev might have won a round or two at best.

 

It's easy to forget how dominate Roy was in his prime. The dude was practically untouchable. Yes he was dropped by Lou Del Valle but that was more of a flash knockdown. Artur is a beast but RJJ's skillset, the speed would make it very difficult to catch him. That said, if Artur did catch him it could be a problem for RJJ.

 

I don't rate Jones compared to current unified heavyweight champ Usyk and Beterbiev fought three wars with Usyk in the amateurs, Beter also beat current heavyweight contender Hunter. People have just woken up to what was always obvious in retrospect.

 

He was hurt badly though against Johnson. The right hook followed by the big left hook. Was on unsteady legs from that. A well placed shot could put this guy down again.

 

Combinations, control of range, efficiency of movement, aggression, defense, power etc. etc. A jab is actually the only thing I might be able to argue for Bivol haha
Gvozdyk would absolutely wipe the floor with Bivol imo.
Let’s hope the Beterbiev-Bivol fight happens, if it does then I respect the balls of Bivol if nothing else.

 

In terms of technical efficiency Bivol can throw better combinations and his movement is better, arguably significantly better than Gvozdyks. His movement is crazy when he act wants to dance around the ring. I also have his control of distance being definitely better, the best at light heavyweight by far. It's like his opponents miss by a centimeter and he counters back twice as fast.

But Gvozdyk hits much harder so his combination punches will do more damage and in that case they are better.

I mean Beterbiev could win, but i look at his fight with Marcus Browne and Gvozdyk and i think to myself... Bivol beats him. Bivol 100% decisons this guy. I have Bivol being too mobile and quick for Beterbiev.

There is no way he trades with Beterbiev like Gvozdyk did and he's not laying on the ropes for 90% of the fight like Marcus Browne. He simply outboxes him for 12 rounds and easily has enough foot speed to outmanuvre him while doing so.

Beterbiev will hurt him but Bivol also has highly underrated survival skills.

 

Against Page it looked like Beterbiev like pushed Page's head down, then Page popped up and landed that right hand at the perfect time. It was a good shot but maybe his legs weren't under him right then and there. I'm not saying Artur is chinny, but he can go down, and he's only getting older. The reflexes go as you get older, punch resistance can go as well, if you can survive the early rounds against Beterbiev, show good defense round after round, frustrate him, get him tired, get him into a chess match, maybe you can catch him in between punches as he's loading up, like Johnson did. But to your point, Johnson's heavy handed. Bivol is a great counter puncher though and an accurate puncher at that. But maybe not heavy handed enough to drop him. Prime RJJ can punch though so I think he could potentially time him and counter him as well.