Beterbiev vs Shavers

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Glass City Cobra, Jun 20, 2022.


How does it go?

  1. Shavers KO

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    78.6%

  2. Shavers TKO

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  3. Shavers decision

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  4. Beterbiev KO

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    14.3%

  5. Beterbiev TKO

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  6. Beterbiev decision

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  1. SomeFella

    SomeFella Member Full Member

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    Are we really using the ams the prove anything about pro speculations?

    So im assuming were holding Duane Bobick in much higher esteem now?
     
    SomeFella, Jun 21, 2022
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  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    are you trying to get Beterbiev killed?
     
    THE BLADE 2, Jun 21, 2022
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  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    We're assuming Bobick fought at heavyweight, the same way we can assume Beterbiev can fight at heavyweight. There's literally video footage of Beterbiev looking like himself while weighing above 200.
     
    NoNeck, Jun 21, 2022
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  4. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Beterbiev, a helluva fighter.
    However why just because he beat a limited fella who goes by the name of Joe Smith is he all of a sudden pitched into these head to head match ups?
     
    Cecil, Jun 21, 2022
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  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Always the same ain't it?
     
    Reinhardt, Jun 21, 2022
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  6. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Believe it or not, I like Beterbiev. I wish him the best and hope he can beat Bivol to become undisputed. But as usual, people become delusional with the new kid on the block. He hasn't beaten any murderous punchers at cruiserweight, let alone heavyweight, let alone a berserker like Shavers who often throws caution to the wind launching nuclear bombs with either hand. Beterbiev is being heavily overrated by hardcore modernists blinded by his undefeated record and punching power.

    People did the same thing with Anthony Joshua and Sergei Kovalev and then jumped ship pretending like they weren't overrating them after they lost.
     
    Glass City Cobra, Jun 21, 2022
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  7. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shavers got his reputation when he got lucky with an uppercut against a past his prime former WBA Champion Jimmy Ellis in 1973. Shavers was 44-2 at that time. His 42 KO victims had a total of 334 losses. He fought Bob Stallings who had a record of 21-24...and he beat shavers over 10 rounds. When Shavers fought a better class of fighter...his KO's went down. He doesn't have a KO past 7 rounds...had lousy stamina...and was a lousy finisher. He didn't have the ability of coming up with the BIG punch when he needed it. Had a past his prime Ali hurt...couldn't put him away...and had Holmes on the canvas...was gassed...and couldn't put him away!!! Lost to Quarry by KO in the 1st round...Bernardo Mercado in the 7th round...Lt Heavy Vincente Rondon...(who was was flattened by Bob Foster)...and Tex Cobb...etc. Nice guy....but an ATG puncher?...Nah.
     
    RockyJim, Jun 21, 2022
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  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Exactly. People act like a oversized 175 champ with great technical skill and power, who already had success at heavy as am, wouldn't beat a very flawed 210 fighter who had a punch. It's glorification of a guy who wasn't that special but fought in a special era.
     
    NoNeck, Jun 21, 2022
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  9. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shavers KO.
     
    Mod-Mania, Jun 21, 2022
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  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually give Beterbiev an even better chance thinking on it more. Still Shavers, but this isn't an easy fight at all
     
    MarkusFlorez99, Jun 17, 2025
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  11. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    the shockwave generated from Shavers cracking his knuckles would realistically decimate Beterbiev into atoms

    Shavers KO 1, 1 punch needed, lazy jab knockout
     
    Mandela2039, Jun 18, 2025
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  12. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Beterbiev is the vastly superior technical puncher despite being less powerful, Shavers’ chin and gas tank wnt cope well.

    Then again, Artur’s defense is one of his greatest flaws and I don’t like the idea of his chin connecting with Earnie’s power either. I’m not confident here.
     
    Melankomas, Jun 18, 2025
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