Better All-Around Fighter: Tony Galento or David Tua?

Galento was stopped by light heavyweights,can you imagine that happening to Tua?
Brown went the distance with a 16 fight Louis ,and was taken out 2 years later.
Risko was a seasoned fighter when he fought Galento? Wasn't Tony with 41 fights under his belt? What are Galento's biggest wins ? Nova and---
Bottom line Galento lost to too many 3 rd raters, and some when he was supposed to be prime.

 

Ok, I now understand, that you're much too clever for me.

So rather than responding to this, why don't you instead make one of your famous two-second clips, you use to back up your point? I'm a big fan of those.

Can I modestly suggest a clip, where Galento stumbles awkwardly forward… where you then explain to us, how this is his expert way of using "the shift".

 

Why don’t you respond to the points I was making to KoolKevin?

Can I also suggest that you actually read the contents of the posts and respond with something relevant to those points as opposed to going off on a sensationalist tangent?

 

I'm confused!

Did we not just agree, that I'm too stupid to have a conversation with - so why do you keep this up?

 

Because you seem to keep trying. My mistake for giving you a chance.

 

Yes, you did give me a chance, and I'm grateful for that. I only have myself to blame, for not making the most of it.

But please understand, that while I'm sorely lacking in historic knowledge compared to you, I'm willing to learn… so also in the future, I'll be looking forward to your expert analysis.

 

Does sparring footage count? https://streamable.com/iopn

 

that Galento was a contender in that era is probably the best argument ever made for "weight/size counts." The guy obviously shows zero skills, fundamentals, or technique in that clip, but he is heavy. That Galento ever got a title shot shows that there was a lack of talent in his era. Galento today, would probably lose his license to box because of a lack of training/skills after getting beat up in 4 rounders.

Mentioning that guy in the same sentence with David Tua is an insult to Tua.

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A cursory look at who was ranked with Galento tells you all you need to know about the depth of the heavyweight division at the time.

 

Yeah. I know that I'm just a biased "modernist" and all, but I think there's a really good chance Galento spends most of his career as a 4-8 round fighter if he comes along during the modern era. Most plausible best-case scenario would be that he becomes a crowd-pleasing Friday Night Fights fighter who wins some and loses some (while often getting cut up by run of the mill fighters) but always entertains. Quite possibly picks up a few losses to c- or d-level opponents very early in his career and ends up with a one-way ticket to Palookaville.

 

Tua was clearly better than Galento. Better shape, at least equal power, better endurance, better skills & better chin.
Though you are a biased modernist. Just as some here are biased towards the old-timers.
I think your assessment of his chances today-if he did not change his training-is both a little too harsh, & in the right direction-he would be less successful today.

But he did have some skills. Chief among them a huge punch & surprising hand speed & explosiveness.
Looking at the records of who he fought, from the beginning they usually had a decent record.

Though yes, he did feast on a size advantage.
For Galento to be world class today, he would need the discipline to train hard & get in shape-& he would do much better as a Cruiserweight.
Though he would be a different person if he had that discipline.

 

Galento had feet mired in cement .He lost to some ordinary fighters.

 

I did not cite his foot speed, & you are correct he lost to some average guys. 80-26-5, & the total W-L record of those he fought are better than many boxers.
He also beat some quite good fighters.
He was good enough to be a legitimate contender.
Tua is clearly better-& I forgot to add peak Tua's unusual punch volume in some fights.

 

He really could impose his will with his power.
Although careless to a degree, he was effective.
I would say a lack of discipline and focus would be his biggest weaknesses.
Reflected in his matchmaking, his style, and his performances.

Tua was a really good fundamentalist, smart and effective in the pocket.
He was most dynamic with his left hook, and could often land huge power hooks from the outside.
I would say his biggest weakness would be fighting around the pocket too often.
He would try to box with the best boxers, and couldn't seem to apply his power with the creativity required to reach the best fighters.

 

Tua could hit with both hands,he had better handspeed,faster feet ,better chin,better boxing ability,better resistance to cuts,and was in better shape. He ticks all the boxes.
Galento had a left hook ,but was clumsy as **** and had terribly slow footwork. Fast stepping jab artists were Tua's kryptonite, a slow fat,limited ,predictable brawler would be his meat.