Better career: Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KINGWILDER, Jan 9, 2024.


Better career: Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder

  1. Anthony Joshua

  2. Deontay Wilder

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

    22,791
    22,678
    Mar 5, 2012
    No one can deny Aj there
     
    Mitch87, KINGWILDER and BubblesUK like this.
  2. KINGWILDER

    KINGWILDER Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,789
    2,598
    May 11, 2023
    Firstly when did AJ duck Fury? The same guy who avoided the undisputed fight for a year to fight a trilogy with Chisora and face Ngannou. You can argue Joshua ducked Wilder, but not Fury.

    Ortiz, Wilder’s signature win, was old and past his best. Joshua has wins over Povetkin and Wlad who had far more impressive careers and were of similar age. Whyte, Pulev, Ruiz, Parker, and Wallin are better than anyone Wilder has beat (bar Ortiz).

    Wilder’s resume is filled with journeymen and mediocre heavyweights. Plus when he fought Parker he lost every single round, a performance due to his inactivity, complete lack of fundamentals, struggles against fast punchers, and age. I do not buy the argument he is utterly cooked, I think Parker’s performance is underrated against him.

    So when you look closely, Joshua’s resume is well clear of Wilder’s.
     
  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,268
    7,011
    Nov 22, 2014
    This.
     
    AdamT likes this.
  4. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,236
    10,796
    Jun 5, 2010
    They've both been beaten down and humbled before, Joshua has ranked higher, made more, been more celebrated and even after 3 losses considered # 3 in the division. This ain't close concerning who had a better career.
     
    007 373 5963 likes this.
  5. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

    1,477
    1,654
    Dec 8, 2018
    Joshua and it’s not even remotely close.
     
    KINGWILDER likes this.
  6. JDub

    JDub Active Member Full Member

    1,477
    1,654
    Dec 8, 2018
    This a really terrible take. The mental gymnastics on display here are actually impressive.
     
    Wizbit1013, deadACE, Finkel and 4 others like this.
  7. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

    5,561
    5,458
    Jul 29, 2018
    Wilders record is closer to Chisora standard than AJ.

    Wilder and Chisora best career wins are on par with each other in turns of ability in Ortiz and Takam. Both have Spzilka and Washington as two of their most notable wins.

    Whilst AJ has beaten the likes Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Pulev and Wallin.
     
    Wizbit1013, Manning and BubblesUK like this.
  8. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

    2,722
    4,087
    Jan 1, 2024
    Am I sure? Yes I am absolutely sure that Wilder in his best days would have absolutely brutalised the Wilder that lost to Parker.
     
    Wizbit1013 likes this.
  9. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,938
    5,603
    May 9, 2023
    People can say what they like about AJ but he's been in there with the best and beaten some excellent fighters.

    Who has Wilder beaten? ****ing nobody. Old man Ortiz? Give me a spell. Wilder is a can crusher and a fraud.
     
    Mitch87, Finkel and BubblesUK like this.
  10. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

    4,081
    7,379
    May 6, 2021
    That doesn't answer my question... Are you sure Wilder could've proved much more than he actually did?
     
  11. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,020
    4,787
    Feb 10, 2020
    Yeah, I don't get it either.

    Some still go on like Wilder didnt duck Joshua and it was all somehow Joshua's fault.

    Joshua's side made so many offers to them. Every time Team Wilder had a criticism, and every time Team Joshua came back with an improved offer to address the issue. And every time there was a new issue for Team Wilder. In the end Team Wilder was basically saying it's 50-50 or nothing and that was BEFORE Wilder had ever done a PPV. It was ridiculous!

    The guy even admitted to ducking undisputed to chase the Fury rematch (which he was extremely confident of winning) for a year.
    :confundio:
     
    Wizbit1013, deadACE, Mitch87 and 2 others like this.
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    80,298
    131,640
    Jul 21, 2009
    The greatest trick The Dosser ever pulled was convincing the boxing world he's not a can crushing hype job
     
    Wizbit1013, lordlosh and BubblesUK like this.
  13. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Hype Jobs will be hype jobs until proven so. Full Member

    2,722
    4,087
    Jan 1, 2024
    Will get grilled to bits for this but anyway.

    I think in Wilder's best days he was definitely capable of beating Ruiz, Whyte, Povetkin. Even Parker. I'm NOT saying he would beat them but I think he had a good chance of beating those fighters.

    Bar Joshua, but I think the Ortiz that fought Wilder was also definitely capable of beating these guys I listed. Ortiz was super unlucky not to beat Ruiz at aged 43. Then again I'm NOT saying he would beat them.

    It wouldn't have surprised me if Wilder beat Joshua in a similar way as Ruiz beat him.
     
  14. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

    5,856
    2,567
    Mar 24, 2005
    I agree with all but one thing - Fury's career is still very questionable. His performance against Usyk will be his career defining moment, not scraping past a Wlad who clearly had issues and then ducking the contractual rematch by retiring.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    27,690
    36,977
    Jul 4, 2014
    How and why is this even a question? Wilder sucks.