Better chin, Louis or Lewis?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Simple Louis was KO`d by softer right hands to from Schmeling than the punches that Lewis took and Ali and Holmes took shots as hard as the ones that stopped Lewis and harder than Max`s shots against Joe, four different chins, Ali and Holmes had amazing chins better than that of Lennox while Lewis had a betteer chin than Joe, three diffeent levels of chin.
     
  2. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not exactly. I just felt compelled to help you, by providing some context for your pot-shotting (in this case, more a one-two combo) at Lewis...

    ..."awful boxing moves"
    ..."his skills there were embarrassingly bad"

    :lol: - You never miss an opportunity.
     
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  3. Jel

    Jel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree. I don't think excuses need to be made for that performance - he got KTFO by a pretty average heavyweight.
    Lewis was dreadful in that fight. He was ill-prepared and sloppy.

    I think it hurts his legacy. If Lewis had held onto the title uninterrupted between 1999 and 2003 he'd be an almost automatic top 5 choice. As it is, he's certainly a strong contender for a spot somewhere in the top 10 but he's not an automatic selection.
     
  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Actually Louis was hit flush many times by Schmeling and essentially collapsed at the end of what he could endure ... after the fight Schmeling raved about Louis' chin and the amount of punishment he could absorb.
     
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  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And you know this? How?
     
  6. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He got into a bar fight with both of them!
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    In that case, you took some pot-shots at Lewis yourself :

    "complacency"
    "over-confidence"
    "a lack of preparation"

    Hardly a ringing endorsement ! :lol:
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    Bruno didn't have sharp KO power at the top level. Bruno was more of a dull clubber.
    Also, I doubt Bruno ever landed his very best shot flush on Lewis's jaw.

    Lewis had a pretty good chin, imo.
    But Baer would knock out just about anyone if he lands his best shot flush.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

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    No one ko'ed Louis with one shot
     
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  10. janitor

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    Now I do wonder about that.

    These are two men who might plausibly have been the hardest puncher on the planet in their respective primes.

    Neither of them quite translated it into wins at the very highest level.

    If an ATG can take punches from guys like this, and stay on their game, then a punchers chance becomes a very slim chance indeed.
     
  11. janitor

    janitor Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is the bottom line.

    It's not like he didn't give people enough chances to do it!

    Frankly his style made it much more likely to happen to him, than it was to happen to Lewis!

    I suspect that is we swap their chins over, then Louis gets a couple more losses, a Lewis loses one of both!
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn`t think anyone really punched harder than Bruno, I just don`t think he had much more to his game really, he had a lot of power and hurt Tyson also.
     
  13. Reinhardt

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    I don't ,Max hits harder than Frank
     
  14. janitor

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    I think we are talking about Buddy here, unless I have failed to keep track.
     
  15. sauhund II

    sauhund II Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Louis by a country mile.

    Lewis is the ONLY Champ in ANY weigh t class as far as I know who was iced twice by one shot by genuine C level fighters.

    Talking about chins.....a shot beyond shot Tyson impersonator took numerous flush right hands from Lewis without going to sleep. until he said F it and stayed down but never out.....the same ONE right hand send Rahman to the moon in their re match.
     

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