Better defense, Eddie Chambers, or David Haye.............

Chamber's and it is not debatable. When i watch Haye fight i see him being unable to maintain sufficient distance before being tagged. Something Haye needs to improve before he does step up and fight someone dangerous. I think the problem with Haye is that his workrate is low, along with his guard...

 

Chambers has got the best defence.

Haye is quicker, more powerful and aggressive

 

Perhaps that it because other people, like myself, have that ridiculous turd on our ignore lists?

Trying to argue with a crazy person makes you just as crazy. Ignore them, and let them smear feces on their head (or whatever else the **** that whackjob does in his spare time) without your knowing about it.

 

From what I've seen, Chambers not being the best on his feet has developed a combination of a high guard and an odd lean-back defense. Like a rope-a-dope without the rope. He can actually bend backwards away from a punch with the high guard up with excellent reflexes and take an awful lot away from his opponents' shots and I think he puts the jab and straight right out from the high guard pretty well.

But maybe I'm remembering different fights than you are or different pieces of the fights. Sometimes he gets such a reluctance bug up his ass about letting his hands go, maybe it doesn't look like he punches well out of his guard. I don't think anyone's saying he's Jimmy Young or anything but compared to Haye, he's very much better defensively, imo. ...Then again, he tends to fight negatively, so he SHOULD be better defensively than a puncher like Haye. Chambers had fought several name fighters before Wlad and I may be wrong but I don't think he'd ever been down after Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Brock, Peter, Purrity. He's not 210 pounds of Willie Pep by any stretch but it's much harder to get to Chambers than Haye. I think that's been pretty obvious. Much tighter D.

 

:good:good

 

It's obviously Euro's on this forum and Wlad fanatics that are trying to boost Chambers.

Chambers looked great against Povetkin when he played a game of I'll put my gaurd up, and you punch, then you put your guard up and I punch.

Why is it that aside from Winky Wright who STILL USED lateral movement, SOMETHING CHAMBERS HAS NO IDEA how to do, are EVERY SINGLE one of the defensive specialists in the world guys that use mobility, lateral movement, and upperbody movement instead of standing right in front of their opponent and absorbing punches like a fool?

Haye easily has better defense. Haye can get sloppy at times, IE against Barrett, but he's also trying to knock his man out. When he fought Ruiz, that was an excellent example of his defense where he was hit very few times by an experienced veteran.

And for the record, Haye would beat the living **** outta Chambers and expose how awful his defense really is as Chambers would be reduced to a stationary punching bag.....oh wait.......he does that all by himself.

That's why he lost to Povetkin who had no business beating him.

 

You mean the same imbecile that threw 9 JABS against Klitschko in the second fight?

Wow, what an intelligent fighter you just named.

 

Yes, and he'd probably own a belt by now if he fought at CW. With that said, I'm sure that he and his camp know all of this already and have simply decided to pursue the bigger paydays in the HW division.

 

Good post.

 

It can be. It certainly was against Valuev.

He has the athleticism and the tallent to pull it off. It's just that he also carries speed and explosive power in both hands and has a tendency to take advantage of the attributes that make him exciting.

He could very well fight almost every fight like he did against Valuev and win a decision.

Chambers on the other hand is only a heavy because the division is terrible. If there was anyone with an ounce of intelligence and ability aside from Haye and the Klitschko's, he would BE a cruiser.

Adamek would beat his ass as well. ****, he got beat by a relatively green and low ceiling of potential Povetkin, despite landing 60% of his power punches.

That's unheard of. The reason is because he just stands right in front of his opponent like a heavybag.

How stupid could he have possibly been to utilize that style against Klitschko and think he would win?

No lateral movement whatsoever. What a joke.

People just mention Chambers to build up Wlad's resume, when in reality Chambers is a joke that is out of his element.

Now if Klitschko beats Haye, that's something to talk about...

 

Bull****.

No way he gets passed Cunningham, Haye, or Adamek at the time he was in heavy.

He gets Koed by Haye and Adamek and loses a wide decision to Cunningham who actually DOES have boxing ability.

Chamber's speed would be neutralized and his idiotic style of being a stationary target would make it easy for his opponents to box circles around him.

 

You dont know **** about Boxing noob. like roger Mayweather would say.:yep

 

Well said my friend , well said.