Better fight: Franklin-Johnson 1 or 2?

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Franklin-Johnson 1 or 2?

  1. Fight 1

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  2. Fight 2

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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    The first went longer but the second was for a world title and had the higher stakes.

    Which do you think was better and why? And please vote for your favourite!
     
  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like the drama and urgency of the second but they’re both great fights.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I watched both fights recently I thought 1st was better, I also thought Muhammad had improved as a fighter since their 1st meeting.
     
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  4. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both incredible fights and about as much sustained action as there’s been between two guys in a series. I go for the first but there’s no wrong answer.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For @Jel this was my little write up of both fights and i think i made a note of how i thought Muhammad vs Johnson 1 was better.


    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson 1

    1 Johnson
    2 Johnson
    3 Johnson
    4 Muhammad
    5 Johnson
    6 Johnson
    7 Johnson
    8 Muhammad
    9 Muhammad
    10 Johnson
    11 Muhammad
    12 Muhammad wins by KO

    106-103 Johnson

    I decided to just use the 10 point must system


    Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson 2

    1 Johnson
    2 Muhammad
    3 Johnson
    4 Johnson
    5 Muhammad
    6 Muhammad
    7 Muhammad
    8 Muhammad wins by TKO

    67-66 Muhammad

    So i decided to rewatch these greats fights again after seeing @Philly161 score the 1st fight, a few things i want to say about these fights. Other than stating the obvious that they were amazing slugfests which we already know.

    In the 1st meeting Johnson was able to land numerous uppercuts, and land them pretty much at will. In the 2nd fight Johnson was never really able to make that punch apparent apart from in round 3, i don't know why Johnson didn't continue to throw the left uppercut. Since it worked so well for him in the 1st fight, and it was one of his better moments in the 2nd fight aswell.

    I also think Muhammad had improved since there first meeting, to me he looked a bit stronger and more assertive. In the 1st meeting Johnson overwhelmed him early on until Muhammad started to get a foot hold in the fight late on, in the 2nd fight Muhammad was more assertive early on competing alot better, and i felt Muhammad was already starting to take over after the the 5th round. Muhammad also did his homework to the body in rounds 5-6, something he did not do in their 1st fight.

    Overall i would say i preferred the 1st meeting despite both being great fights, and to me Muhammad did improve after the 1st fight where as Johnson didn't. Johnson just couldn't break Muhammad who was made of steel.
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I like them both the same. Both are some of the best fights I've ever seen to this day
     
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  7. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess I have to watch the first one again, it's been a long time. The second one got my vote though. That final barrage from Saad the 7th with blood pouring from his face.......oy.