Better fighter: Adonis Stevenson or Deontay Wilder

Stevenson quite clear he could box and punch while Wilder can only punch.

 

Adonis wasn't a one trick pony, he could also box off the back foot and move quite fluidly when he needed to. Wilder is one of the most devoid of any apparent skill set "high achieving" fighter I've ever seen.

 

You know, throughout boxing history, reigning and former light heavyweight champs and heavyweight champs have routinely fought each other in both title fights and non-title fights. (Spinks-Holmes. Foster-Frazier. Jones-Ruiz. Conn-Louis. Adamek-Klitschko. Qawi-Foreman. J.B. Williamson-Foreman. Lesnevich-Charles. Maxim-Patterson/Charles/Walcott. Foster-Ali. Too many to mention.)

Wilder was on the smaller side, when it came to weight, until 2018, when Stevenson's career ended.

And some former light heavyweight champs, like Moorer, had no problem moving up and beating former heavyweight champs.

Moorer won the WBO light heavyweight title a year after Bonecrusher Smith lost his heavyweight belt to Tyson. Moorer and Smith fought in 1993. Smith weighed 246 pounds (far more than Wilder has ever weighed in his career) and outweighed Moorer by 30 pounds ... yet Moorer beat him easily.

Moorer was clearly a better fighter than Smith, after all.

Wilder routinely fought men 20, 30, 40 pounds heavier than him.

I wonder how many of the guys saying Adonis Stevenson was better than Wilder would've picked Stevenson to beat Wilder in between 2015 and 2018?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say NONE of them would've.

Can you imagine if Wilder decided to defend his WBC heavyweight title against the WBC Light Heavyweight champ?

The HOWLS from this site ...

The guys saying Stevenson was the MUCH better fighter would immediately be calling Stevenson another Wilder "Cherry Pick."

Wilder was better than Stevenson. Wilder destroys him.

 

Even bigger travesty, Wilder didn't defend his WBC heavyweight title against the WBC Light Heavyweight Champ Stevenson.

We haven't had one of those demolitions in a while.

Maybe Wilder will fight Bivol or Beterbiev in his return bout? Beterbiev and Wilder fought in the same division as amateurs.

Most guys here think those two light heavy champs are "super cool" ... don't they?

 

Being a better boxer has zilch to do with H2H. And no **** it would be called a cherry pick...a LtHW v SprHW?? Oohh... big whoops, DW woulda beat Stevenson. That's not even the point of this thread

 

Stevenson was hated and people pretended he was awful. every time he fought everyone brought up his weak chin. Which I dont think he actually had. never lost a fight in his prime. got knocked down hard and it was enoguh for a ref to stop the fight as it was untelivised (boone)

the only other loss was to Gvosdyk when Stevenson was actually winning the fight but at his age he had no Stamina to last the last 2 rounds

 

We're not comparing a flyweight to a middleweight. There is a history of light heavys and heavys fighting each other.

Moorer was a better boxer than Bonecrusher.

Wilder weighed less in 2018 than Moorer did in 1993 when he fought the 246 pound Bonecrusher.

Wilder was only 212/214 that year. Stevenson was in the 180s if not 190s when he stepped in the ring for those title defenses that year.

What's 20 or 30 pounds if you're the better fighter?

Are you saying Stevenson couldn't beat Wilder if they'd actually fought?

 

No, Adonis wouldn't beat DW. FFS....

 

Of course not. Because Stevenson wasn't a better fighter than Wilder.

If Stevenson was, he'd have had no problem, like Moorer had no problem against Bonecrusher.

Just the latest "Wilder bashing" thread of the week.

None of the guys who said Stevenson was the better fighter would have ever actually picked him to win against Wilder if they'd signed to fight, like other light heavys and heavys routinely do.

 

Have you heard of this thing called weight classes?? DW outweighs Adonis 30+ pounds FFS.

Moorer actually moved up to HW. It was not a LtHW fighting a HW, was a HW v HW.

'Better fighter' between two guys is not just a H2H comparison. I guess you think DW is a better fighter than Mayweather jr right? In fact, DW is a better boxer than all small boxers he'd KO... Geez...

 

Adonis was high 180s/low 190s on fight nights.

Are you saying a 190-pound better guy can't beat a 212-pound lesser guy? Hell, the night Wilder weighed 212 in 2018, he came in closer to 208 on fight night. He'd lost weight after the weigh in.

So it would've been more like a 15-pound difference that night.

If Adonis was so much better, shouldn't have been a problem for him. Right? No sweat.

 

it's a LtHW v a 6'7" HW we are talking about....

Cut the "Are you saying" crap.... If you are going to ask that, re-read what I posted and look for those words. Otherwise simply ask for clarification.

Can a 190 boxer beat a HW? Of course that's a possibility. I never made a blanket statement saying it's impossible. But between the two we are talking about (HINT: it's not Holyfield or Moorer...both of whom MOVED TO HW). the LtHW has no chance. But go ahead and claim a W for thinking DW beats Adonis. What would that be, his best win as a pro??

 

Actually, Adonis beating Dawson is on its own at least kinda close to the entirety of Wilders record. So, yeah, I will take back what I said earlier and say it is night and day difference.

 

Stevenson by a little. Most heavyweights aren't going to have as good of technique as a lighter fighter so I am more going off resume.

 

Stevenson won the first 3 or 4 rounds and was getting his ass padded for the rest of the fight after that point. Stevenson wasn't winning **** after the early rounds.