better fighter? Iran Barkley or John Mugabi?

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  1. MAG1965

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    exactly. Ray could have made a big impact coming back and fighting Hagler right after Marvin fought Hearns, but he saw the fight and didn't want to fight that Hagler. I think Ray senses something about Hagler not being as motivated. He was good at that stuff usually.
     
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    mugabi deserves respect and most people forget a majority of his fights were fought at 154. he challenged the man at 160 and showed a big heart and much more talent then what was thought at the time he possessed
     
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    dont forget ray thought he had a shot hearns in front of him for the rematch. he also waited for hearns to slow down before he granted him a second fight
     
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  4. Juiceboxbiotch

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    Barkley, no question about it.
     
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  5. marting

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    I was going to mention the junior middle thing but...
    :good Glad to see some well deserved respect for The Beast. He earned it.

    I'll never forget the buildup to the Hagler/Mugabi fight especially living in Tampa at the time, Mugabi's adopted home town. He was our chosen man to fight THE MAN, Hagler.
     
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  6. MAG1965

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    Ray did that a lot after Marvin. I think he felt he really won that Hagler fight by playing those games, so he tried them against Hearns and later Duran. Ray thought Hearns was a shot fighter for losing to Barkley, and then looking bad against Kinchen. Then Ray has Tommy weigh in at 164 thinking Tommy would stuggle, and Tommy comes in 162.
     
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    what a feckin monster mugabi was. i remember ,i think it was nbc, showing his fights and he was just destroying good fighters on his way up. just knocking them fecking silly.
     
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  8. MAG1965

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    which shows you the guts of Hagler. Had I been Hagler and seen those fights on NBC I wouldn't have wanted to fight him.
     
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  9. haglerdude

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    leonard was a brilliant fighter but these stipulations hurt his reputation. who ever thought that even an old ray would get stopped by the feather fisted hector camacho,lol
     
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    hagler would have fought king kong if they could have gotten gloves on him,lol....truly an old school great!
     
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    That Camacho fight surprised me. That just showed that Norris took more out of Ray than I thought, added to that the 6 years since Norris. Ray lost all his speed by 1997.
     
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  12. haglerdude

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    what a sad way for an all time great to finish his career
     
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  13. MAG1965

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    yeah it was sad. I thought Hagler ended his career well and on top. Never was knocked out and fought the best round ever with Hearns. Fought top fighters Hearns,Duran,Leonard. Great career.
     
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