Better fighter: Salvador Sanchez or Jose Napoles ?

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  1. teeto

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    Manny Pacquiao cuts stoppage

    over Muhammad Ali with a mask on that only has peep holes for his eyes and breathing holes though. Pacquiao is unbeatable now, since he did a technical about turn under Freddie Roach, Eddie Futch's worst nightmare.
     
  2. horst

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    Personally I think Floyd would tool Napoles simply by playing mind games with him. PBF would trash-talk Mantequilla into such a whimpering wreck that by the time the fight came, Napoles would throw sloppy, scared punches like Phillip N'Dou, and PBF would shoulder-roll him into another dimension and pick him apart. Then Floyd would release a video onto the internet of him calling Napoles a little yellow wet-back, and the worldwide boxing community would line up to say that Floyd meant his back with wet with sweat during the fight and that there was no racial element to any of it.
     
  3. lora

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    General forum is one up, Popkins;)
     
  4. red cobra

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    Yeah, cause after all, Napoles was just an ordinary fighter..;):verysad
     
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  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I see similarities in both men, I know this is off topic slightly but I wanted to share. They are both sort of counter-pressure fighters, in the way that they do not directly pressure a fighter in the mould of Armstrong or Chavez, but they make their opponent react first.

    Sanchez edges forward, Napoles keeps his jab out. They are counter-pressure fighters and superb at it.
     
  6. teeto

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    Nice observation. For me Napoles really was a complete type fighter, a real technician of the highest order, he was a ring general but he attained that status by way of encompassing all aspects of what a complete tecnhician is. He wasn't the type to create a gameplan and stick to it, he'd just go out there and do it all, in the fight. It wasn't plan a, and if not then i have plan b. It was, go out there, establish the jab, counter, establish my range, and break you down in the middle of the ring, utilising all of the boxing artillery i have, and i have it all.

    Sanchez for me is totally a ring general, Napoles is more skilled imo. Sanchez had one of the greatest ring presences of all time, somwehat like Monzon purely in that respect. The observation you made of Sanchez drawing the shots from his man is a very good one Greg. That was him for me, dominating his space, which was mid-ring, establishing an authorutative jab, and if you tried to rush his space, he was basically gping to batter you with punches in bunches, which for me were not technically as nice as those of Napoles, but they were just as natural and he was so comfortable in his smoothness about it.

    Wilfredo Gomez was great at apllying pressure in a smooth methodical fashion, not being 'all over' his opponent with his actual body the way a Frazier would for example, but i mean when he was actually in boxer mode, he would box at a range comfortable for himself and constantly land power punches to head and bpdy behind the jab, backing his man up, making them work, making them frustrated, making them a victim of complete boxing really, and he'd be slipping and countering with ouch type shots all the while, it's really impressive to watch. He did it against Davilla.
     
  7. GPater11093

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    Yes, I agree completely, he made the opponent react to him. What I love about Napoles pressure, and I harp on about this, is watch the Ralph Charles fight, he pops that jab out when he is not doing anything, just sticking it out there to keep Charles busy and occupied, and when he does draw a lead from Charles he is perfectly poised to counter-punch. Superb stuff.

    Agree 100%. I'd say both men were great ring generals and thinkers, but with Napoles being better technically, and Sanchez (for his weight class) being more physical.

    Yes, again agree 100%. His performance against Davila is the best one he ever turned in IMO, then Zarate, then Laporte, which are two other examples that illustrate your point equally as well IMO.

    A sort of Cobra type fighter, he is in there battering you but as you come back he is whipping back with hard shots at you. Serpentine, I believe is the word they used to describe Burley's style in one of his bouts with Holman Williams, but it fits Gomez equally as well IMO.
     
  8. lora

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    sanchez was the lesser of the two at ditching a good jab imo.Napoles probably the more vulnerable to fast paced swarming and unorthodox brawling.
     
  9. El Bujia

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    Hey dudes, I gotta say, the Sanchez of aroun 86' was already passin 'is prime. There wan't no Willie Pep aroun' to stop 'im, but I think he'd comfortably beat Harold Wadsworth Greb.

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    Sally Sanchito was one tough vato, BUT!......LMAO
     
  11. laxpdx

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    Napoles for me, but it's really close.
     
  12. salsanchezfan

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    Great analyses here. Not much to add really; it's pretty well been covered, but I agree that Napoles was better at the art of hitting without being hit, while Sanchez took a more combative view with both technically applying the same type of style. Both were obviously very effective.

    Napoles more the pure boxer, Sanchez more of a "fighter."
     
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  14. teeto

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    Yeah some people called it the seprentine motion Greg, i think it's on that vid, analyzing genius.:good:good
     
  15. teeto

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    Definitely the more vulnerable of the two to such types. But you never know if that's harsh, with the vast majority of the footage of him being against men who were probably naturally larger.
     

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