Better fighter: Shakur Stevenson or Bam Rodriguez

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    bam is a better all round fighter. more complete technically. his footwork amd offense is more effective than both. he is just fighting at a higher level. tape and stats will verify that fact.
     
    bandeedo, Jul 21, 2025 at 8:11 AM
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  3. Serge

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    “Nakatani’s team was okay with the fight,” explained Robert Garcia, Rodriguez’s career-long manager and trainer. “I have a text message from Mr. Honda telling me that [Teiken] did not want the fight. I do not want to say that Nakatani rejected the fight. I talked to his team, his trainer Rudy Hernandez - we’re very good friends.


    “So, I don’t want to say that Nakatani rejected the fight. I think it was more Mr. Honda didn’t want the fight between his two fighters, same with “Chocolatito” Gonzalez and Bam as far as his two fighters facing each other.”
     
    Joeywill, Jul 21, 2025 at 10:07 AM
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks

    He said, she said

    Never seen a Japanese brother duck a fight in my life. It's not in their mental makeup or on accordance with bushido

    Junto would send Bam-Rod to the shadow realm and unlike Bam-Rod he wants that Inoue smoke whilst Inoue is this side of 70
     
    Serge, Jul 21, 2025 at 10:15 AM
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  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Excitement has nothing to do with who's better troll.
     
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  7. Joeywill

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    Would be some fight

    Wonder how Nakatani deals with someone like Bams footwork and on the inside
     
    Joeywill, Jul 21, 2025 at 10:17 AM
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    That footwork belongs to Loma. Bam-Rod is a huge fan of Loma and he stole it from him. Anyone who loves Loma or shows him love will wind up in my good books real fast but I just like to troll his fans because it amuses me

    I didn't like it when he said he wouldn't fight Inoue for like 3 years or something IIRC as that was a female dog move

    I give credit to Shakur when he's praised Loma too which he has on numerous occasions, including when Loma retired. He and his fans have spoke a lot of crap about Loma too though and I do hold grudges
     
    Serge, Jul 21, 2025 at 10:26 AM
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  9. Dorrian_Grey

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    The stats actually show that Shakur is the better fighter. Has a lower opponent connect to punch accuracy percentage than Bam does.
    PLUS MINUS +/-
    • SHAKUR STEVENSON: 20.2
    • JESSE RODRIGUEZ: 18.6
    https://beta.compuboxdata.com/
     
    Dorrian_Grey, Jul 21, 2025 at 10:37 AM
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  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i stand corrected. i focused too much on one stat. bams +/- rating results in stoppages. none of his last 4 opponents have finished the race, while 3 of shakurs last 4 have. thats why i say he is more effective, and more complete technically. shakur surface punches, which ive noted for years, while bam can generate power from any position. that takes knowledge and technique, natural or learned, but its part of being complete.
    i am curious to see how bams fight vs rungvisai compares to shakurs overall stats. thats the only fight i can think of where bam maintained a defensive approach for a significant amount of time.
    another thing i should note, since the popular narrative is bull****, is that bam is already fighting guys bigger than him, while shakur is not small for his division. that makes a difference in difficulty of task.
     
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