Better fighter: Tszyu (MA Gonzalez fight, '99) or Calzaghe (Lacy fight, '06)?

KT was regarded as an unstoppable machine heading for a showdown with ODLH until he got derailed by Phillips, he was considered to be FAR more formidable than calslappy in his prime.

 

Gonzales was a very crafty fighter who was past it at the time as was Chavez when Tszyu beat him, but MAG was still a tough opponent much better than Lacy. Id give the edge to Tszyu, but Ive always liked Joes stamina and output it was unreal. Both I think their offense was their defense. Tszyu was like Bhops, but without the defense, but with more power. Rare to see a technical fighter with bone crunching power.

 

Two really All Time Greats . Would be so interesting to see against todays 140/168
Super middle much stronger today than five years ago.

 

Tszuy did not eat the day of a fight, believe it or not. That changed after the Philips fight.
He also totally ignored the defensiv. If you see the amateur fight against Vernon Forrest
his defensiv is so top-level. He became a slugger in the pro years.
In my opinion his problem was he did not take all fights seriously. "Some fights he did not show up totally motivated." Those words i told two old americans the night before the Hatton-fight we were living in a hotel in Trafford the weekend og the fight.

 

Tszyu for sure

 

Tszyu was the better boxer, bigger puncher, Calzaghe the smarter, faster, more adaptive fighter
both the best of their era's in the respective divisionslike them both personally, i can't split them

 

Tszyu. Calzaghe was very good though ...

 

So Hopkins had no defense and no punching technique.
Next you'll say he was over the hill when they fought oh wait 3 years ago.
But now Hopkins that beat Pascal is the Shite Eh.
You contradict yourself every Calzaghe thread jsut quit while your ahead.

 

Tzyu definitely. He never avenged the defeat to phillips but joe never avenged his loss to reid neither.

Both unified the division.

However tzyu has better names on his resume and displayed a greater skillset throughout his career.

After tzyu knocked out judah we saw zab knock out spinks which is a feat much greater than any calzaghe victim went on to achieve.

Tzyu is a certified hof'er who cleared out his division. Picturing the ease with which hopkins landed his rights on joe i'm convinced that he hopkins possessed tzyu's power p4p if would have knocked joe out.

All things considered tzyu is a close but clear greater fighter.

However regarding comparisons in these two performances, it's fair to say joe never had to get out of first gear, if dominated lacey from the off and successfully tasted his power in the opening exchanges. As dominant as the performance was joe should have stopped jeff after that ass kicking if put on him.

Considering how highly regarded left hook was it's hard not to be impressed by the victory. But miguel was every bit as impressive p4p and was an instrumental obstacle in oscar's rise to the top however if was coming off a layoff of over a year. Tzyu was more emphatic against an opponent of better quality imo. Both did nothing of note after these defeats but mag was better proven at the time of the fight. I give kostya the edge here.

 

Tszyu! And i didnt even have to think on it.

Joecal to me was a punk( not scared because i will never call a boxer scared). He didnt want to fight anyone that mattered. His best win is possibly a loss (hopkins) and that was against an old man. Joecal was a "so called champ" for like 10 years before he ever fought anyboby with a pulse and even they werent much(lacy and kessler).

But skill wise Tszyu was better. Tszyu was an olympian so he had pretty solid technique. I cant say the same of joe.