Better first title. Floyd Mayweather vs Genaro Hernandez, or Pacquiao vs Sasakul

Pac fans aren't being consistent though. Half of Mayweather's career is overcoming situations since he didn't really have big name guys to fight. You guys ignore the situations and only focus on the names claiming Mayweather ain't do ****. Now that Mayweather has the name over Pac in this particular argument and Pac has the situation, now all of a sudden situation overcomes name.

 

lol read my first post in this entire thread...you'll see.....

 

****** may aint done ****.

 

Plus Hernandez fought a great fight vs Mayweather, Floyd was just better then him that night. It wasn't like he looked shot or old he fought very very well.

 

thats coz floyd has no skills. none.

 

you are not familiar with thailand right? if you want to win there, you have to knock your opponent or lose a decision.

 

got it :deal

 

the only advantage that mayweather has on this argument is on how we won the fight. pac struggled against sasakul until his shots took effect and slowed the thai. other's like opponent's status and quality by the time of the fight, risk of fighting in an opponent's turf, and their own status coming into the fight and how they are perceived before the match all points to pac-sasakul as the better win.

 

I think both are the same and both opponents are proven to be quality unlike current fighters of today's first title shot(alvarez for example)

Both opponents have that one great win against an atg

hernandez: won nelson
sasakul: won arbachakov

 

That's the problem when you're not internationally exposed. A lot of American fighters kept fighting fellow Americans or other fighters from neighboring countries. Most have never tested waters against other countries from other sectors of the world. Then you're claiming you're truly the best just because you're holding a belt when there are also other fighters from other sectors that need to be given a chance to get a crack at them. Japanese, Indesians, Thailanders, Koreans, Africans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, British, Americans. Manny Pacquiao has fought most of them proving he's tested more international standards than most top calibers today. That's how fighters nowadays need to do to really claim they're the best in the world. You'll never know how these fighters fight unless you actually fight with them. I think Ali has done that before. Just my 2 cents

 

i found it funny



nothing wrong with a lit l bit of comedy

 

I have no problem with you feeling that Pac's win is better based on situation. Just be consistent with that viewpoint.

 

I don't know which are you referring to. I'm just pointing out that Manny fought the biggest fish in that division which just turned out to be a relatively unknown fighter because that guy was fighting on asia. Let's be realistic here, who's the bigger fish that time than Chatchai Sasakul? Would you realistically see flyweight champions from America (if there were) fighting an unknown asian fighter back then? Manny just fought the best possible opponent available for them and they were lucky the lineal champion were fellow asians back then. But I would understand Manny couldn't crack on the boxing scene that time cause he was very unknown in those years.

 

Sakasul was probably better than that version of Hernandez by a little bit.

Floyd dominated a lot more clearly than Pacquiao, I'll go with Mayweather having the slightly better win here.

 

IMO a come from behind victory from a guy who's expected to lose is a better win for me than a dominant victory from someone expected to cruise a win cause it would make the fight more competitive, more exciting and more dramatic. But I respect other opinions :good