BETTER - Form. FlyW beating WW champ Cotto or 45 yo form. MW beating CW champ Adamek?

Both equally good wins and really unbelievable if you had to guess a few years ago.

 

Good question.

Equal IMO

 

Both amazing

 

Pacman beating Cotto, simply because Cotto is a better fighter then Adamek

now i rate Adamek highly but, we've seen him outboxed b4, now granted i think Chads boxing skills are some of best in the game (outside of the last 3 rounds where he falls asleep in the ring)....but i still have no reason to believe that Hopkins couldn't do it as well, Hopkins may not be as physically equipped as Dawson is in his old age, but he's twice as tricky and twice as good at throwing a fighter off his game and off his rhythm

on the other hand we've seen Cotto beaten down and bloodied, but it was by a bigger and tougher man that throws 100 punches around and has one of the best combinations of chin-to-stamina in the game, and of course he was also banned for being a lowlife plaster-fisted scumbag....so without getting into the "he did it or didn't do it" it's clear that the loss is covered in a cloud of controversy

and yes, Pacman showed his power against Hatton, and his speed against DLH, and we all know he's a fighting machine, but....Cotto's 1 time of being dropped from a punch was against a guy that hits like a bus (Torres), and it took an absolute onsluaght of powerpunches AND even a push to do it, not to mention Cotto is a consensus top 10 P4P fighter

so in this fight Cotto's not just the big fighter, but a big ELITE fighter, and Manny will have to fight the fight of his life to beat him, cuzz if he chooses to trade with Cotto he's at big disadvantage do to power and size and if he chooses to box against Cotto, and does it successful he'll be the 1st fighter to actually outbox him, so either way it's an amazing feat for Pacman, not to mention he'd be the 1st ever 7-division world champ (now with all these belts out there, winning a title has become diluted since the old days, but it's still an amazing achievement)

and back to Adamek, we can't call him an Elite at this point, cuzz he just isn't proven enough and he's yet to beat a great fighter, but he's still doing his thing, so i'd still say he's more then just a big fighter in this fight, he's a big VERY good fighter plus he has alot of momentum, and like i said earlier, if Hopkins is gonna win, he's clearly gonna due it by outboxing him, since trading with Adamek aint even an option, and we've already seen Adamek outboxed, so to me the win wouldn't really be amazing, great,... but not amazing


but if Hopkins does it after a year long layoff, then i might have to reconsider, because that would be amazing given his age....but yeah, thats my thoughts

 

bhop imo... pacman - cotto is in 145 or something near so it's not something incredible...

 

good post. i would be more impressed with hopkins, though, depending on how he fights in that fight. on paper, i feel that what hopkins is doing is more impressive. when we see the fights, we will really see what the more impressive feat was.

 

I think Cotto is a much better fighter than Adamek. so thats why I voted the 2nd option.

 

45 year old. A jump of 40lb. 1 year out of the sport.

Pac's a former flyweight - but he wasn't developed then really. It's not the incredible achievement people make out

 

Hopkins based on his age. The issue of weight with both these two has become overblown.

 

Neither is better than the other. Both would be great wins for Emmanuel Dapidran and Hop. Wow, another Pac fan glorifying Pac again lol... Fighter of the decade comes down to two fighters. Pac and Floyd. The winner of their fight will be fighter of the decade.

PAc has wins against past it guys, who had names and has looked dominant against subpar comp in his last 3 fights...and Floyd has been dominant mostly all of his career, and has not been stopped in 2 fights in 3 rounds or beaten by a past it great in a third loss. Pac is he only guy who can stop Floyd from being fighter of the decade. If Pac beats Cotto and never fights Floyd...and wins this fictional "fighter of the decade" award, I'll throw up lol...

 

Hopkins beating Adamek. Hopkins is 45 years old end of story.:deal

 

IMO I think you can make a case for both fights, but if I had to chose out of those 3 options....I would have to say both are equal to each other.

Its takes a lot to keep fighting when you're 45 against the true champ at a weight division that you've never fought at before...You're risking a lot when you move to a heavier weight at that age...Considered that some boxers really dont fight in their 40's...fighting at 45 is an accomplishment of its own...Then you have to pack on the weight the right way to maintain your mobility, punching technique, and stamina...So for Hopkins to pull out a win under these conditions says a lot and should be acknowledged.

Now Pacman on the other hand, Pacman is going up against a power house in Migeul Cotto which is no pushover by any means...So Pacman to pull off this victory will say a lot about Pac's ability as a fighter...Pacman has proved many wrong in the past so with him beating Cotto will be a great victory for him.:good

So I really just cant place one victory over another given that they both have their task cut out for them.

Now if I had somebody put a pistol to my head...I would have to lean towards Hopkins given that he's 45 years old and still making young fighters look foolish.