Better Legacy: Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather jr?

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  1. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd --- undefeated.
    How many fights has Bhop lost.
     
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  2. dellboi94

    dellboi94 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Too early to say, bare in mind Floyd has not stopped fighting. If they both retired today I would say B-Hop but if Floyd fights and beats Pacquaio and then a young hungry guy like Brook I would say Floyd.
     
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  3. brando

    brando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How many boxers in history has zero losses?
    Calzaghe; Valero, Ottke etc. yet only Marciano is the popular and greatest of all them.

    Legacy is not how many wins u have or amount of money earned. Its who you fight with the best and not cherrypicking.
     
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  4. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thats funny I remember Hatton, Guerrero and Marquez having to coming up in weight to fight him... Also wasn't Maidana recently campaiging @140? Ortiz as well I think you should probably rethink about what you wrote. :hi:
     
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  5. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unfortunately I am one of those fools that likes that "0" in the loss column.
     
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  6. Imperial1

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    :lol:
     
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  7. theDUD3

    theDUD3 Active Member Full Member

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    Totally false. Almost no one denies Floyd's talent, imo his only rival talent-wise is Rigondeux what people criticizes him of is he isn't fighting the best.
     
    theDUD3, Nov 11, 2014
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  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    C'mon you Flo Mo's where are you Poll results reflect Hopkins wayyyyyyy in advance of Puzzy Mayweather. Bet they'll claim this poll was rigged
     
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  9. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many fights has Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali and other ATGS lost?

    Mayweather will always be criticized about his resume, being undefeated is not enough, it's the level of opposition and taking riskier fights.

    Mayweather may have fought these ''Champions'' but stylistically are tailor made for Mayweather.

    Slower, Flat Footed, Plodders like Maidana 2x, Guerrero and Alvarez (Drained Plodder).
     
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  10. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal :yep
     
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  11. boxing_master

    boxing_master Loyal Member banned

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    haha
     
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  12. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Y'all still talking bout Castillo n it was 12 years ago...the fight was a toss up n he boxed his ears off in the rematch....you mad?
     
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  13. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its pretty simple to me...Floyd may weather will go down as the greater fighter... He adapted in tough fights and he won like Castillo, Jesus Chavez, odlh, and maidana 1....Hopkins had a great run at middleweight but for 5 years fought nobodies for the IBF belt....the quality of opposition sucked

    OK lineal titles won Floyd has won 4, Hopkins 2

    Lineal title defenses Floyd has 16...Hopkins 9

    Champions and titleholders defeated: Floyd 20(9 lineal champs) Hopkins 16(7 lineal champs)

    Hopkins has shown guys who were more athletic n busier with skills could beat cagey style even in his prime...Jones,Taylor,calzaghe, Dawson, kov proved this

    May weather may arguably the best mid fight adjuster ever

    I love both guys but based off opposition, skills, titles won n defenses...its clear may weather has the greater legacy
     
    pugilistspecialist, Nov 12, 2014
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  14. Anima

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    Legacy is about what you leave behind and how much respect you earned.
    Guess who got more respect earned between the two?


    Bhop by lightyears.
     
    Anima, Nov 12, 2014
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  15. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I used to think it was important till i actually got more into the history of the sport.

    Hell before i had any clue the person who introduced me to the sport kept raving on about Marciano being the greatest heavyweight ever because of his 0.

    And while Marciano was obviously great, hes not close to being a contender for heavyweight goat.
     
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