Better legacy Crawford vs Mayweather?

That's enough for you to decide? Floyd is the A side. Crawford was never that. When you are the A side, you have advantages. That's how boxing has always been. You think Duran wanted to fight Leonard on short notice? You think Floyd wanted to fight at 154 and not be able to wear his own gloves against De La Hoya? That's just apart of being the A side.

 

Crawford and Mayweather both beat versions of Canelo that were not peak Canelo. Mayweather beat him on the way up when he hadn't peaked yet, and Crawford caught him on the way down. So if we equate those wins as similar, which I do, and they're both incredible wins, Bud's resume nose dives off a cliff.

Mayweather beat Pacquiao, De La Hoya, even the likes of Jose Luis Castillo, Corrales, Marquez, and Zab Judah; they'd all be the best wins on Crawford's resume as standalone fights. Legacy-wise, Mayweather is light-years ahead, but H2H it would be a very interesting fight, and one that Mayweather would've likely avoided if they were around at the same time.

 

You can talk green Nelo but Floyd's victory over him was even better than Crawford's, even considering the weight jump, imo. It was even better performed over an even better athlete.

 

Crawford's career is smoke and mirrors to a large extent, spent most of his career beating up much smaller men. His best wins are post car crash Spence and a badly faded Canelo. People fell for the lie of him being the much smaller man but the truth is he should have been already competing at middleweight/super middleweight years ago, he was just hiding out at the lower weights for whatever reason. He struggled with Madrimov who isn't the best at 154 and he isn't interested in taking on the others there. Isn't interested in fighting Janibek either.

 

The point is, Crawford beat people without having to impose advantages. He didnt need to dictate weight restrictions, choose their gloves, impose his own drug testing, etc. Bud just wins under the rules.

I'll take Bud's career. Three weight undisputed champ, Floyd zero.

 

Its a fairly simple answer to be honest. All depends on what the real question is.

Floyds career is far superior in my opinion. Hes got the resume, the accolades, the ppvs, the unbeaten record. The Floyd Mayweather fight was bigger than any World Title. That was the ultimate goal in boxing. He reigned for nearly 20 years. He showcased some of the most incredible boxing skills the sports seen. Im taking the career of Floyd Mayweather, the legacy of Floyd Mayweather.

Now, the real question, who would win in a fantasy match up. It would all depend on how elusive Floyd can be. If you give me the very best Money Mayweather Floyd, i dont see Terence touching him, because simply put, you cant hit him. When he become defence heavy, risk free Floyd, he doesnt lose. As less fan friendly as it was to the casual audience.

I do think there is versions of Floyd that Terence could potentially beat though. For me, Pretty Boy Floyd was a monster, real spiteful puncher, defensively solid but an aggressive puncher, i still replay them left hooks he buried on Corrales over and over in my head. That version of Floyd, Terence could potentially punch with him and catch him, but to play devils advocate, 135-140, i think Terence was very vulnerable to being clipped and Floyd could crack.

Brilliant fantasy match up, im just yet to see Floyds equal in the modern era.

 

Floyd didn't need to impose advantages but he has the ability to do it because he's the A side. That's what A side fighter do. If you have a problem with it then that's fine but I just look at it as apart of the sport. It's been that way since the beginning.

I think Floyd had a better overall career. What hurts Bud is the resume for me. The accolades are great but who you beat is always a heavy factor when determining greatness. We can nitpick Floyd in that regard as well but I think in comparison to Crawford, Floyd's resume is just far superior to me.

 

This. People forget but Mayweather wasn't especially popular before the DLH fight. He was already spouting **** about being "Money" but it was DLH who earned way more for that fight and elevated Floyd to superstardom. It's not like he was handed everything on a silver platter, he made his way to the top.

 

Compare the divisions they fought in

LW - Floyd I think has the bigger win over Castillo

LWW - Debatable

WW - I think Floyd has the better wins

LMW - Floyd has the better win

Then throw in the great resume Floyd has at SFW


I would pick Floyd

 

Floyd has the deeper resume I think so I have him.so far.

It's also different in the regard that Floyd generally fought against bigger guys, while Bud probably been the naturally bigger guy up to last night. For what that's worth. Not sure it makes a difference, but worth noting.

 

It's a great achievement, no doubt and certainly not dismissed, but why would it be a factor when comparing wins? Surely the fighters make up the real resume rather than a belt.
For example I would rate Floyd's win over Manfredy at that time higher than some of the title wins

 

Undisputed doesn’t matter as much as you’d think.some examples of past undisputed champions include Cory Spinks,Carlos Baldomir,Jermain Taylor,Buster Douglas,Hasim Rahman.

 

I don't know if Mayweather could beat this dude. While I would argue that Mayweather's performance against Canelo was perhaps more dominant or more one-sided at times than Bud's performance, it was also a much different Canelo. Bud gets more respect for fighting this version of Canelo. A seasoned, maybe past his prime but still a force and Crawford really dispatched Canelo in his own Awkward and Skillfull way which is to be commmended. Canelo on the other hand did appear to have the upper hand in the early goings but was up against the promoter agenda of having Crawford win, and Crawford certainly did his part, but I do not believe that Crawford could survive Canelo at his best. I think the problem here for Canelo is that he has so much respect for Crawford that he doesn't want to hurt him or knock him out.

Now there were times that Canelo really loaded up on some shots, in one incident he missed wildly after a series of landed shots by Crawford which may have swung that round. Little things like that Crawford does. Age and experience was a factor, Bud was able to have the tactical chess match with Canelo but if Canelo really pressed the action you would think that Bud could be in serious danger. Now this loss could motivate Canelo to train even harder for a rematch or for a fight with Benavidez. I think a rematch would be even bigger after we've seen how close and competitive it was. A rematch in Azteca would be outstanding. On the other hand, I would also like to see Charlo Challenge Bud. It is very possible that Charlo for all his struggles against Canelo could be a problem for Bud. And I say this because Charlo is an explosive puncher. And Canelo is also known for his explosive punching and we didn't see the fight changing bombs from Canelo that we are used to. The kind of shots we saw Canelo land against Berlanga or Ryder or whomever. Last night was Bud's night but these two could easily go into a trilogy or into other fights. I think one of the things that Bud did that was so effective was how he put on weight. In that he took his time coming up to 168, he didn't just rush up in a matter of months. Slowly putting on weight is what made Bud stay quick, or at least quicker than Canelo in terms of footwork. Bud's footwork and movement was key. Canelo does not have the same footwork he showed in GGG 1 or against Jacobs. And the Scull fight caused him to second guess himself because many of the same problems that were present against Scull were also present here.

But on the other hand, Canelo controlled much of the early going. AI backs that up and many fans did not believe Crawford did enough. Crawford took control of the fight in the middle rounds when he had some big moments and the tide started to turn but not fully. There was still a sense that the judges would have given Canelo some of these rounds, and they did, but there were many different scorings by some of the judges in ways that don't really make sense. If we are to believe for example that Crawford won a round in which he missed 33 punches and 26 jabs, only landing 1 point in the entire round, and presumably this one Crawford punch offset everything else Canelo did in the round, which according to Compubox was land 8 punches. Are we to believe that 1 single punch from Bud was better than a combined 8 punches from Canelo? One judge scored it in that way. So this was very favorable scoring from Bud. I do not believe that the focus was on Canelo's body punching, instead it was on Bud being competitive and close rounds, more of them at least, rounds that coud have gone to Canelo, went to Bud. Rounds that in other cases may well have gone to Canelo, given the kind of rounds we've seen go to who they have in the past and all the outrage that has come from that.