Better Legacy Hopkins or Jones?

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  1. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    I'd put them about even at this point, or close to it. Certainly neither one is head and shoulders obove the other as far as legacy goes.
     
  2. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    :deal
     
  3. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Jones he's more accomplished .
     
  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I would have to pick Hopkins, although if you ask me who was better when both guys were peak and at thier best, I would pick Jones. But careerwise, Hopkins fought and beat the better guys.
     
  5. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Jones also has a horrible Glass Jaw and handpicked all his opponents.
     
  7. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Id say Hopkins because although he never won a heavy or super middle belt,he never got knocked out and has won in fights where he was the underdog.I think a lot is made of Roy winning at heavyweight and even though it was a great achievement he was in with one of the weaker heavy weight champs,its not as though he beat Lewis who was the domminant heavy of the time.Roy has a great legacy but i think Hopkins has been more consistant over the years.
     
  8. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If we look at the actual quality of fighters, let's say Roy/BHop vs. The Ring P4P-ers at the time, the difference is huge. And what offers more quality in the resume, title/division wins, or performances vs. actual top elite oppositon?

    P4P-ers they faced:
    Roy Jones:
    -James Toney, ranked in 5, win, almost shutout decision
    -Joe Calzaghe, ranked in 5, loss, almost shutout decision

    Bernard Hopkins:
    -Felix Trinidad, ranked in 5, win, shut-out in 11 rounds then knockout
    -Oscar De La Hoya, ranked in 10, win, one-punch knockout
    -Jermain Taylor, ranked in 10 in the 2nd fight, loss, very close, debated
    -Antonio Tarver, ranked in 10, win, almost shutout decision
    -Winky Wright, ranked in 5, win, close but clear decision
    -Joe Calzaghe, ranked in 5, loss, very close, debated
    -Kelly Pavlik, ranked in 5, win, shutout decision

    In the last 5 fights vs. P4P-ers, Hopkins was 40+.



    Performance vs. same opposition:
    -Jones-Hopkins obviously, Roy W12, clear decision at a very eary stage of their career
    -Glen Johnson: WKO9 Jones, LTKO11 Hopkins
    -Antonio Tarver: L12 Jones (close/debated), WKO2, W12 (clear). L12 Hopkins (close to shutout)
    -Felix Trinidad: L12 Jones, LTKO12 Hopkins
    -Joe Calzaghe: W12 Jones (almost shutout), WSD Hopkins (close, debated)
     
  10. huggerfree

    huggerfree Well-Known Member Full Member

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  11. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    RJJ because he is a better fighter by a long way , he was probably the best fighter in the 90's. Bhop is an expert at destroying his opponents game plan and turning the fight into his fight and taking home the victory.

    but bhop gets bonus points for being hilarious
     
  12. wvucheerjr

    wvucheerjr Active Member Full Member

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    To me this is difficult to answer depending on how the question is worded. I think as an overall legacy history will see Hopkins more favorably because of how long he was able to compete at a world class level. However on the otherhand prime for prime I don't think anyone would say that Hopkins was a better fighter than Jones.
     
  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    For me its still Jones although Hopkins still creeps closer and closer.
     
  14. CLUBBER

    CLUBBER C.R.A.B. BOXING Full Member

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    Jones haves a slight advantage IMO...
     
  15. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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