Better opposition Ali Or Oscar

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Joeywill, Jul 25, 2024.


Who fought better opposition

Poll closed Aug 21, 2024.
  1. Muhammad Ali

    47.8%
  2. Oscar De La Hoya

    52.2%
  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that Muhammad Ali and Oscar De La Hoya fought the best opposition of any boxers since 1960 who fought better opposition?

    Keep in mind who they fought and when they fought them
     
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  2. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali beat the better fighters, while Oscar fought the better fighters. As good as the likes of Frazier, Foreman, Liston and Patterson are by Heavyweight standards, they're just not a better group than prime or close to prime versions of Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Bernard Hopkins, Shane Mosley and Felix Trinidad. Add very past it but still world class versions of Pernell Whitaker and Julio Cesar Chavez and it's just a done deal.

    Oscar has fought the best array of fighters since the time of the Fab 4, so like, of the last 40 years or so.
     
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  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Voted Ali but damn it's close

    I mean facing Mayweather and Pacquiao at their best alone is outstanding
     
  4. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Oscar fought better fighters the best guy Ali fought was Frazier after that they’re all just solid.
    De La Hoya on the other hand had a murderers row of names.
     
  5. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gotta say De La Hoya.
     
  6. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Regardless of wins, lets see the top 5 of each fighter..
    Muhammad Ali- Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Joe Fraizer, Sonny Liston, Ken Norton
    Oscar De La Hoya- Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquaio, Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley, Pernell Whitaker


    It's close, but I'd probably give the edge to DLH.
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Floyd is top 10, Manny is top 20 if not 10, and Whitaker is top 30 at worst. I don't think Ali even fought a top 30 guy.
     
  8. The one

    The one Member Full Member

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    The Golden Boy easy.
     
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  9. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That’s just a few, though. It gets clearer when looking across their whole careers.
     
  10. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    Moore but obviously contextually it’s not the same as Oscar fighting Floyd Manny or Pernell
     
  11. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Floyd, Manny, Mosley, Tito, Pernell, Chavez, Hopkins, Camacho, Gatti, Leija, Miguel Gonzalez, Vargas, and Quartey. Oscar's comp blows Ali's outta the water imo.
     
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  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    If you say Moore, I’ll say Chavez. And Chavez actually had something for the first fight.
     
  13. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    I voted Oscar
     
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  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    If we include the people they both LOST to then it’s Oscar.
     
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  15. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Oscar clearly lighter weight classes tend to have better fighters generally